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stephen25000

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Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #150 on: October 10, 2015, 11:37:56 AM »
You think they are both as likely?

Perhaps dave thinks the dogs alerted to Alien D.N.A.  8)--))

Offline Mr Gray

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #151 on: October 10, 2015, 12:01:42 PM »

ferryman

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Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #152 on: October 10, 2015, 12:24:09 PM »
Extracts from replies made by GFM to my emails, which commenced with me asking for the name of the country in which the account was held for receiving donations via GFM:-


 "Unfortunately, we are unable to disclose any information regarding where the account-holder is processing the donations without the Campaign Organizer's permission.


Do you happen to have a link to the campaign?


If you believe someone is committing fraud or breaking the law in any other way, please report the campaign to our Trust & Safety Team by following these steps "
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"Yuliya stepped away, but I can
jump in to help.

With thousands of campaigns being created on GoFundMe every
day, there is no way for us to guarantee the validity of every single campaign,
or note when the Campaign Organizer changes. Whenever you make a donation to a
Personal campaign, like the one you are referring to, the funds are made
available to the account holder directly. As such, we must always recommend that
you only donate to people you know and trust."
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"Hi Madison
Following on from that, is it not the policy of GoFundMe to check the
credentials of anyone taking over from the campaigner of an existing appeal?"
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"I can assure we keep an eye on account transfers, but if you believe someone is committing fraud or breaking the law in any other way, please report the campaign to our Trust & Safety Team by following these steps:  "

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So, it appears that whilst GFM are quite happy to allow their banner to continue being displayed behind a campaign which has changed hands since its inception, they take no responsibility whatsoever for checking the credentials of the new account holder. The appeals page has no reference to the original Facebook Verified campaign organiser and GFM makes no statement to ensure people are made aware that changes have been made.

Reading all that reminds so much of the protest another person and I jointly made against publication of Pat Brown's "profile" of Madeleine McCann on Amazon.

At least in name, they have a procedure you can use to register a complaint against any published material that you think might be untoward.  Between us, we quoted extracts from the profile that were plainly libel and got back blanket responses from Amazon that they could not be expected to check the content of all work that is promoted for sale on their site and they would do nothing.

A short time later, Carter-Ruck intervened and the whole lot was whooshed. 

These organisations (some of them) take money for providing goods or services without the slightest heed to the credentials or standing of the goods or services they allow third-parties to promote or sell.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #153 on: October 10, 2015, 12:50:52 PM »
Yes

A Predictable but ridiculous statement.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #154 on: October 10, 2015, 12:54:00 PM »
A Predictable but ridiculous statement.

a predictable and ridiculous statement from you

Offline slartibartfast

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #155 on: October 10, 2015, 12:57:49 PM »
a predictable and ridiculous statement from you

You suggest that accidental death and alien abduction are equally likely and tell me I am making ridiculous statements? Oh dear.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #156 on: October 10, 2015, 01:03:31 PM »
You suggest that accidental death and alien abduction are equally likely and tell me I am making ridiculous statements? Oh dear.

two points..
R D Hall of the video fame...a hero of the sceptics believes alien abductions are happening all the time...I'm sure you would agree that's ridiculous ....but the sceptics think he is wonderful...

I put both scenarios at zero as no one has been able to come up with an accident that fits the circumstances....plus many other reasons

Offline Mr Gray

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #157 on: October 10, 2015, 01:09:51 PM »
as for amaral's idea that maddie died after a fall from the sofa...I would say alien abduction is more likely

Offline pegasus

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #158 on: October 10, 2015, 01:15:00 PM »
It is clear that all money raised by the gfm appeal is used only for the one clearly stated object of the appeal which is legal expenses. There is no fuzziness in the stated object of the appeal. There is no liberal interpretation of the stated object to finance anything else.

Offline Montclair

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #159 on: October 10, 2015, 01:25:04 PM »
Reading all that reminds so much of the protest another person and I jointly made against publication of Pat Brown's "profile" of Madeleine McCann on Amazon.

At least in name, they have a procedure you can use to register a complaint against any published material that you think might be untoward.  Between us, we quoted extracts from the profile that were plainly libel and got back blanket responses from Amazon that they could not be expected to check the content of all work that is promoted for sale on their site and they would do nothing.

A short time later, Carter-Ruck intervened and the whole lot was whooshed. 

These organisations (some of them) take money for providing goods or services without the slightest heed to the credentials or standing of the goods or services they allow third-parties to promote or sell.

You must love whooshing any adverse opinions! I find what you did totally despicable and shows that you do not believe in freedom of opinion, especially when it concerns your dear beloved devious duo of parents.  What you did is nothing to be proud of.

If you did not agree with what was written, all you had to do was point out the "errors" out in the review section, which would have been much more effective than just making the book disappear. BTW, I read it and did not find anything libelous in Pat Brown's kindle book. I would be interested if you would please let us know what exactly in the book could have been considered libelous.

If the McCanns felt that the book was truly damaging, all they had to do was hire a lawyer in the US and sue Pat Brown. However, since freedom of opinion is highly regarded there, they probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere. So that's why they sent their henchmen, Carter Ruck, to threaten Amazon.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #160 on: October 10, 2015, 01:25:50 PM »
two points..
R D Hall of the video fame...a hero of the sceptics believes alien abductions are happening all the time...I'm sure you would agree that's ridiculous ....but the sceptics think he is wonderful...

I put both scenarios at zero as no one has been able to come up with an accident that fits the circumstances....plus many other reasons

Between 2000 and 2005, in the US, 200 Children between the ages of 1 and 4 died of poisoning, 200 died in falls and 800 died of suffocation.

http://www.cdc.gov/safechild/images/CDC-ChildhoodInjury.pdf
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #161 on: October 10, 2015, 01:28:34 PM »
Between 2000 and 2005, in the US, 200 Children between the ages of 1 and 4 died of poisoning, 200 died in falls and 800 died of suffocation.

http://www.cdc.gov/safechild/images/CDC-ChildhoodInjury.pdf

we have been through this all before...give me just one example from anywhere in the world...that would fit...no one was able

Offline Anna

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #162 on: October 10, 2015, 01:29:38 PM »
Wandering off topic, Guys?
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline slartibartfast

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #163 on: October 10, 2015, 01:38:14 PM »
we have been through this all before...give me just one example from anywhere in the world...that would fit...no one was able

Ok...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3021620/Girl-3-dies-left-home-mother-aunt-clubbing.html
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

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