Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015

[misty]

If someone split a £20 donation into four £5 donations they incur an extra transaction charge of 60pence Misty or twelve shillings in old money. You are talking shillings.

6.9% +20p + any currency conversion charge. Illogical, whichever way you look at it.

[pegasus]

6.9% +20p + any currency conversion charge. Illogical, whichever way you look at it.

Yes gfm fee 5%, plus transaction fee 1.9% + 20p.
It's logical and far more efficient than a certain other fund Misty.
And the joy of it is there is no £38K website admin charge and no £100K deduction for receipts problems.

[stephen25000]

Yes gfm fee 5%, plus transaction fee 1.9% + 20p.
It's logical and far more efficient than a certain other fund Misty.
And the joy of it is there is no £38K website admin charge and no £100K deduction for receipts problems.

Nicely put.

[pegasus]

Nicely put.

I did some calculations and worked out that in its 1st year the other fund (which later used some of the money to sue Mr Amaral) had costs of raising online donations which were closer to 10% of total online donations, which makes gfm's 5% seem very reasonable.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Yes gfm fee 5%, plus transaction fee 1.9% + 20p.
It's logical and far more efficient than a certain other fund Misty.
And the joy of it is there is no £38K website admin charge and no £100K deduction for receipts problems.

The 38k website was a rip off. e-commerce at its worse.

 The other difference is: one fund was used for lawyers without the donators knowing and, the other is going to be used WITH the donators knowing... funny ole world innit.

20 Pence debate to shock the world....against Gerrys hotel bill! (not to search for his daughter) Oh My.

[G-Unit]

I'm not referring to the deceptively generous double donation, merely the much smaller donations of, say, £20.

Despite your examination of the gofundme page it seems to have escaped your notice that people on low incomes were donating weekly because they couldn't pay larger amounts all at once. Splitting their donations was due to financial constraints, not to a desire to mislead anyone imo.

[misty]

Despite your examination of the gofundme page it seems to have escaped your notice that people on low incomes were donating weekly because they couldn't pay larger amounts all at once. Splitting their donations was due to financial constraints, not to a desire to mislead anyone imo.

Nothing has escaped my notice, but the proof of someone asking people to split their donations between different names is freely available on one of those sites not in keeping with your own views.

[misty]

I did some calculations and worked out that in its 1st year the other fund (which later used some of the money to sue Mr Amaral) had costs of raising online donations which were closer to 10% of total online donations, which makes gfm's 5% seem very reasonable.

You have no doubt done the same calculations on Amaral's overall operational costs to back up your claim?

[G-Unit]

Nothing has escaped my notice, but the proof of someone asking people to split their donations between different names is freely available on one of those sites not in keeping with your own views.

As I haven't seen that I'll have to ask you.Is there proof there that anyone took any notice?

[misty]

As I haven't seen that I'll have to ask you.Is there proof there that anyone took any notice?

You'd have to ask the administrator of the GFM account about that.

[G-Unit]

You'd have to ask the administrator of the GFM account about that.

So there were not lots of posts agreeing with the suggestion of splitting donations on this site you refer to then? It was suggested but no-one replied saying 'OK, I'll do that?'

[misty]

So there were not lots of posts agreeing with the suggestion of splitting donations on this site you refer to then? It was suggested but no-one replied saying 'OK, I'll do that?'

I've no idea what any private replies may have said. There is only evidence of what was posted publicly.
As I said, you'll have to ask the fund administrator.

[pegasus]

You have no doubt done the same calculations on Amaral's overall operational costs to back up your claim?

100% of the nett donations to PJGA are for paying Mr Amaral's lawyer.

The only costs are:
5% on GFM donations (compare with 10% for the DIY MFLNSU Ltd's website).
Transaction fees to Paypal, Stripe etc (just like MFLNSU Ltd).
Currency conversion fees (just like MFLNSU Ltd).

There are no other operational costs for PJGA Misty.
Public relations and image-management costs = ZERO (Mr Amaral has no need for such rubbish).

[mercury]

Jesus christ almghty!

[mercury]

Nothing has been proven in any respect about GA's fund or the now-defunct GFM appeal.
I trust you were sensible enough not to donate.

you should take your extrenely sour grapes elsewhere.......you are making a mockery of yourself....oops, too late