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Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #240 on: November 07, 2015, 08:47:53 PM »
I wonder whether the thousands of donators and the hundreds of callers would be impressed Davel.
I have checked at CH and no the name has not been changed to MFLAPUT Ltd - maybe you could suggest it?

This thread is about GFM, where the money ended up & what it may have been spent on. Any advances on the zero data currently in the public domain?

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #241 on: November 07, 2015, 09:21:10 PM »
This thread is about GFM, where the money ended up & what it may have been spent on. Any advances on the zero data currently in the public domain?
PJGA have stated that they have paid about half the total donations to Mr Amaral's lawyer and are holding the rest for possible future payments to Mr Amaral's lawyer. This is the stated object of PJGA. BTW this is necessary to enable Mr Amaral to fight a libel case which was launched from the unknowing pockets of donators to another fund which does not have launching libel cases listed anywhere in its stated objects.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #242 on: November 07, 2015, 09:28:37 PM »
Why are you unable to contribute to a discussion ... sorry ... forgot.  Didn't you once post that was not the object of your presence here?

I notice there are some of my posts , even ones directed at you, that you steer well clear of.
I guess that is because like the particular question you are ducking here you either have no answer or are too embarrassed to give it, your customary sneering notwithstanding.
It rather looks like I hit the inner again  ?>)()<
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #243 on: November 07, 2015, 09:30:02 PM »
PJGA have stated that they have paid about half the total donations to Mr Amaral's lawyer and are holding the rest for possible future payments to Mr Amaral's lawyer. This is the stated object of PJGA. BTW this is necessary to enable Mr Amaral to fight a libel case which was launched from the unknowing pockets of donators to another fund which does not have launching libel cases listed anywhere in its stated objects.

theres a very simple answer to that...do the PJGA not understand this is NOT a LIBEL case....and they being Portuguese and all that

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #244 on: November 07, 2015, 09:33:49 PM »
This thread is about GFM, where the money ended up & what it may have been spent on. Any advances on the zero data currently in the public domain?

No! but I presume it was spent on his legal costs as that is what it was asked for.
Do you have evidence to suggest the contrary? If so perhaps you will be good enough to share it with us?
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Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #245 on: November 07, 2015, 09:47:44 PM »
No! but I presume it was spent on his legal costs as that is what it was asked for.
Do you have evidence to suggest the contrary? If so perhaps you will be good enough to share it with us?
Agreed Alice. Some find it inconvenient to accept that a group of real friends set up a fund to help Mr Amaral with legal costs, and have used that money exclusively and honestly on that one clearly stated object.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #246 on: November 07, 2015, 10:02:59 PM »
Agreed Alice. Some find it inconvenient to accept that a group of real friends set up a fund to help Mr Amaral with legal costs, and have used that money exclusively and honestly on that one clearly stated object.

its a shame the man it is being used on is dishonest....according to the Portuguese courts

Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #247 on: November 07, 2015, 10:05:40 PM »
"Please sign our petition" versus "just give us £10k".
I can see why you chose not to post Gerry's full, open letter.

Errr...excuse me, but you asked for a link, and no one had replied for a while,  I did a quick google search and up it popped, the request for donations was in it....I was not involved in the ins and outs and minutae of your discussion, I was trying to be helpful...next time remind me to remind you to do your own donkey work!

And if you "saw" anything in my just providing the link and not posting the whole article, then you are seeing things!

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #248 on: November 07, 2015, 10:13:13 PM »
I notice there are some of my posts , even ones directed at you, that you steer well clear of.
I guess that is because like the particular question you are ducking here you either have no answer or are too embarrassed to give it, your customary sneering notwithstanding.
It rather looks like I hit the inner again  ?>)()<

Having scrutinised my posts you may have noticed there are some posters I seldom address ... I think you may possibly be one ... not for any other reason than I seldom find anything you have to say of particular note.
Although you do insist on responding to some of mine.
Whether I find your response interesting enough to merit a reply is entirely a matter for me.

I do however find it rather touching that it is expected that everything to do with the GFM appeals on behalf of Mr Amaral is to be seen as squeaky clean by those who support the invention of 'fraudulent' into everything associated with benefiting the search for a missing child.

Now where did I put that dictionary to check on 'hypocrisy' ... I'm sure it must have a place in this somewhere.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #249 on: November 07, 2015, 10:21:29 PM »
So Gerry was sending out begging letters at a time Kate was writing her book to raise funds. Is that correct ?

Yes, donations were solicited at the same time as KM was writing or near finalised her book. Im not sure why (not that I care) as it will have been a given fact that it would be a bestseller bringing in buckets load more money than a request for donations which had more or less dried up,not to mention the extra half a million paid by the Sun and confirmed by Brookes in court, for the serialisation rights

And at the time or a month or so thereafter  KM appeared on GMTV and said her role in the campaign was income generation

I read the list of the things donations could be put to use for....just a tenner for a thousand or was it 10,000posters......where are they?
Back in the day 2008  they said they spent 80k on posters in Portugal Spain and Morocco ...where were they? An Al Jazeera documentary made noted a couple of posters were seen in that country, not hundreds of thousands

So no Brietta, people are not carping on about the cost and existence of staples and paperclips!!!






Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #250 on: November 07, 2015, 10:31:26 PM »
Yes, donations were solicited at the same time as KM was writing or near finalised her book. Im not sure why (not that I care) as it will have been a given fact that it would be a bestseller bringing in buckets load more money than a request for donations which had more or less dried up,not to mention the extra half a million paid by the Sun and confirmed by Brookes in court, for the serialisation rights

And at the time or a month or so thereafter  KM appeared on GMTV and said her role in the campaign was income generation

I read the list of the things donations could be put to use for....just a tenner for a thousand or was it 10,000posters......where are they?
Back in the day 2008  they said they spent 80k on posters in Portugal Spain and Morocco ...where were they? An Al Jazeera documentary made noted a couple of posters were seen in that country, not hundreds of thousands

So no Brietta, people are not carping on about the cost and existence of staples and paperclips!!!

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #251 on: November 07, 2015, 10:35:03 PM »
its a shame the man it is being used on is dishonest....according to the Portuguese courts
And who paid for the PIs to get your alleged info for you for this desperate vendetta against a SIO ? - let's hope it wasn't honest donators who were told their money would be used on searching for a child?

Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #252 on: November 07, 2015, 10:36:29 PM »
Errr...excuse me, but you asked for a link, and no one had replied for a while,  I did a quick google search and up it popped, the request for donations was in it....I was not involved in the ins and outs and minutae of your discussion, I was trying to be helpful...next time remind me to remind you to do your own donkey work!

And if you "saw" anything in my just providing the link and not posting the whole article, then you are seeing things!

It was very helpful of you to find the letter on Faithlilly's behalf & I extend thanks on her behalf as she has chosen not to comment on Gerry' letter in its entirety.

Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #253 on: November 07, 2015, 11:16:05 PM »


Thats one billboard...are you trying  to suggest thousands upon thousands of posters were put up across a few countries and ripped off or defiled? Dont be silly. We all know your disgust at deliberate actions of , well, whatever they were, and whoever was responsible, just dont try and  spread a message of , whatever it was, was happening in imaginary places if it did not exist, and if it did do detail

You cant get away from the fact that certain expenditures have not been detailed and any normal person might question them, which is not a crime, hell, journalists did...

Offline faithlilly

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #254 on: November 07, 2015, 11:19:45 PM »
It was very helpful of you to find the letter on Faithlilly's behalf & I extend thanks on her behalf as she has chosen not to comment on Gerry' letter in its entirety.

I commented on the part relevant to my point.

Gerry could have easily socialited siginutares, and only signatures, for his petition in the letter, especially as he must have known at the time that Kate's book would be bringing in money in a few months time. He chose not to. Instead he appealed, quite forcibly,  for money. It does make you wonder if at first the book revenue was even destined for the fund.
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