Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015

[pegasus]

... if at first the book revenue was even destined for the fund.

It says in the book that 100% of royalties go to MFLNSU

[faithlilly]

It says in the book that 100% of royalties go to MFLNSU

And  I'm sure they did however we do not know what the plan was at the time Kate wrote it.

[Brietta]

Thats one billboard...are you trying  to suggest thousands upon thousands of posters were put up across a few countries and ripped off or defiled? Dont be silly. We all know your disgust at deliberate actions of , well, whatever they were, and whoever was responsible, just dont try and  spread a message of , whatever it was, was happening in imaginary places if it did not exist, and if it did do detail

You cant get away from the fact that certain expenditures have not been detailed and any normal person might question them, which is not a crime, hell, journalists did...

Wonder why is it some posters are so reluctant to discuss the absolutely opaque funds set up to benefit Mr Amaral which is after all the theme of this thread?
What is it they know or being more realistic, do not know, which disallows full and frank discussion in favour of deflection?

As regards the vendetta against Madeleine's posters ... where have you been for the last few years?

There is no point spending expensively on billboards to have them defaced and torn down.
There is no point in putting up posters of a missing child for exactly the same reason.

Particularly when people have been indoctrinated into the belief that there is no point because she is dead ... oh the power of the pen and a best seller.


**Snip
Gerry returned there last month to film a reconstruction but he was heckled by some residents who blame the couple for a downturn in business.

At the town, he backed a poster campaign and sent out 10,000 letters to locals, appealing for information about the British girl, who disappeared on May 3, 2007.

But they were received with little sympathy by many people, including builder Jose.

He said: "Nobody liked it and I think it was a shame that they sent out those letters. Many people just ripped them up."

Many expats there are equally hostile.

When asked how she felt about Gerry coming back to film a reconstruction, one resident, Nana, said: "Horrible, absolutely horrible. He was totally ignored.

"People didn't put up any posters. They're fed up and we're very angry."
http://news.sky.com/story/688705/portuguese-town-is-fed-up-with-madeleine


**Snip
Local Rute Fernandes added: "It's a waste of time. "There's not a single person on the Algarve that is unaware of this case and doesn't know who Madeleine McCann was."

Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell has said the appeal's aim is to collect the vital clue that could lead to Madeleine being found.

The official Find Madeleine Fund said in a statement earlier this week:
"At the time of Madeleine's disappearance the emphasis was placed more on international appeals, and it has been recognised that the local Portuguese residents of Praia da Luz and the surrounding areas have never been properly asked about information they may have to give.
"The purpose of the current campaign is to do that - ask the local Portuguese residents for information to help to find Madeleine."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/5055948/Vandals-target-Madeleine-McCann-posters.html

[misty]

"... the gofundme page dedicated to Gonçalo Amaral's defence has collected donations in excess of 50 thousand pounds. These funds have been transferred to the bank account that is held by Dr Paulo Sargento and other friends of Mr Amaral. Less than half of this amount has been spent on legal expenses for the defence of Gonçalo Amaral ... the bank account currently stands at an amount that seems largely sufficient to face eventual future expenses. ... Any unused funds will ... be donated to a Portuguese children's charity..."
http://pjga.blogspot.co.uk/
That is transparency........snipped

It may be "transparent" but is it true?
A blogspot is not a legal document, there is no legally binding contract between a donator & the recipient .....and in May 2015 the legal fees requiring settlement were quoted as £300,000, not £25,000.

[pegasus]

It may be "transparent" but is it true?
A blogspot is not a legal document, there is no legally binding contract between a donator & the recipient .....and in May 2015 the legal fees requiring settlement were quoted as £300,000, not £25,000.

Misty this may amaze you but some people actually trust Mr Amaral and his friends. The MFLNSU Ltd's accounts may be legally binding but try to find out any sort of facts in them like was it 4 spanish PIs and toy cats they paid donators money for or was it 40, or even a rough idea of how much they spent on pursuing this libel case for several years (I bet you can't find that even to the nearest £100K in the accounts?).

[Brietta]

Misty this may amaze you but some people actually trust Mr Amaral and his friends. The MFLNSU Ltd's accounts may be legally binding but try to find out any sort of facts in them like was it 4 spanish PIs and toy cats they paid donators money for or was it 40, or even a rough idea of how much they spent on pursuing this libel case for several years (I bet you can't find that even to the nearest £100K in the accounts?).

That will no doubt be of some comfort to the brother he defrauded and others to whom he is indebted ... not least the Portuguese equivalent of the IRS.

[Mr Gray]

Dear oh dear.

They weren't raised by AMARAL, they were raised for his legal defense.

everytyhing I have said is true...money raised on the basis of lies

[mercury]

Wonder why is it some posters are so reluctant to discuss the absolutely opaque funds set up to benefit Mr Amaral which is after all the theme of this thread?
What is it they know or being more realistic, do not know, which disallows full and frank discussion in favour of deflection?

No one is reluctant to discuss the appeal funds raised, but theres not alot to discuss

As for the rest of your post, too long to copy and bore people, where have YOU been? the issues you discuss happened in 2009/10, the 80k used was in 2007 so your arguments contained in that part of your post are a bit null

[pegasus]

Basically there is no evidence at all that a single cent of PJGA money has been used for anything other than its one stated object.

[Brietta]

Basically there is no evidence at all that a single cent of PJGA money has been used for anything other than its one stated object.

There is no evidence of anything regarding any of the money donated to Mr Amaral over the years ... I believe the transparent fund has only published on one occasion many years ago.

[pegasus]

There is no evidence of anything regarding any of the money donated to Mr Amaral over the years ... I believe the transparent fund has only published on one occasion many years ago.

No money has been donated to Mr Amaral. Money has been donated to a fund run by some friends of his, strictly to pay his legal costs defending the libel case. The objects of the UK based fund are equally clearly defined - to find the child, and to bring the perp(s) to justice. It's very clear, both funds say exactly what they are for.

[G-Unit]

It may be "transparent" but is it true?
A blogspot is not a legal document, there is no legally binding contract between a donator & the recipient .....and in May 2015 the legal fees requiring settlement were quoted as £300,000, not £25,000.

Do you have a cite for that?

[Brietta]

No money has been donated to Mr Amaral. Money has been donated to a fund run by some friends of his, strictly to pay his legal costs defending the libel case. The objects of the UK based fund are equally clearly defined - to find the child, and to bring the perp(s) to justice. It's very clear, both funds say exactly what they are for.

Then I fail to see the problem people have in their demands for the transparency of every transaction of one but total disinterest in any transaction for the other.

If the properly audited and publicly accountable fund is continually held up as being 'fraudulent' what does that say about one which is conducted totally in camera?

[jassi]

Then I fail to see the problem people have in their demands for the transparency of every transaction of one but total disinterest in any transaction for the other.

If the properly audited and publicly accountable fund is continually held up as being 'fraudulent' what does that say about one which is conducted totally in camera?

Nothing at all.

[Benice]

Then I fail to see the problem people have in their demands for the transparency of every transaction of one but total disinterest in any transaction for the other.

If the properly audited and publicly accountable fund is continually held up as being 'fraudulent' what does that say about one which is conducted totally in camera?

An example of hypocrisy on a grand scale IMO.