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Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #210 on: November 05, 2015, 11:40:44 PM »

You seem to think the book was banned. It quickly became unbanned in 2010.

Their mllion pound writ was there frm the start banned or unbanned...stop twisting things and changng goalposts

Anyway im so glad he got 52k for lawyers fees..for the david and goliath debacle.....an infitesimal amount compared to the funds garnered by the mccanns of around 5 m with no transparency and ..with unclear aims...the very fact you compare the two is actually extremly laughable at best
See ya later

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Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #211 on: November 05, 2015, 11:52:55 PM »
Their mllion pound writ was there frm the start banned or unbanned...stop twisting things and changng goalposts

Anyway im so glad he got 52k for lawyers fees..for the david and goliath debacle.....an infitesimal amount compared to the funds garnered by the mccanns of around 5 m with no transparency and ..with unclear aims...the very fact you compare the two is actually extremly laughable at best
See ya later
The £1m was to allow for the potential profits from future book/DVD sales.
I wonder how much his slush fund got from the begging letters and other sources in Portugal? It's so difficult to compare the 2 funds, don't you agree?

Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #212 on: November 06, 2015, 12:04:20 AM »
The £1m was to allow for the potential profits from future book/DVD sales.
I wonder how much his slush fund got from the begging letters and other sources in Portugal? It's so difficult to compare the 2 funds, don't you agree?

How can you  claim a million from potential future sales if your writ is for establshed and saturated sales and a  banning? That spin just doesnt work well.

And no its not difficult to compare 5m d a few thousand, that not even the authorities have asked for a return in yet



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Offline faithlilly

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #213 on: November 06, 2015, 12:08:20 PM »
The £1m was to allow for the potential profits from future book/DVD sales.
I wonder how much his slush fund got from the begging letters and other sources in Portugal? It's so difficult to compare the 2 funds, don't you agree?

What these begging letters ? From the Daily Record :

'THE parents of missing Madeleine McCann admitted yesterday that most of the money donated to help trace her has been spent.

The Find Madeleine Fund, set up soon after the three-year-old was abducted, once topped £2million.

But after more than three years of searching, there is less than £300,000 left.

Before now, Kate and Gerr y McCann, both 42, have always refused to ask for donations.

But with money drying up, investigators to be paid and the costs of the ongoing search, Gerry has penned a fundraising letter.

It will be sent today to friends and celebrity supporters, including David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo, Sir Richard Branson and JK Rowling.'

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #214 on: November 06, 2015, 12:23:17 PM »
The £1m was to allow for the potential profits from future book/DVD sales.
I wonder how much his slush fund got from the begging letters and other sources in Portugal? It's so difficult to compare the 2 funds, don't you agree?

Not really; they are both begging bowls held out to the public seeking donations from that same public to fund legal actions of one sort or another. The public have no control howsoever the funds are spent and unless it is proven to be fraudulent in a court of law the public have no means of redress even if they want it.
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Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #215 on: November 06, 2015, 12:55:21 PM »
What these begging letters ? From the Daily Record :

'THE parents of missing Madeleine McCann admitted yesterday that most of the money donated to help trace her has been spent.

The Find Madeleine Fund, set up soon after the three-year-old was abducted, once topped £2million.

But after more than three years of searching, there is less than £300,000 left.

Before now, Kate and Gerr y McCann, both 42, have always refused to ask for donations.

But with money drying up, investigators to be paid and the costs of the ongoing search, Gerry has penned a fundraising letter.

It will be sent today to friends and celebrity supporters, including David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo, Sir Richard Branson and JK Rowling.'

Bravo!
But there's a world of difference between writing to friends & people who've already offered support to finance further searches, compared to writing to strangers in a foreign country for funds to cover debts you've racked up (& continued to) with blatant disregard as to how those costs were going to be met.
Do you have a copy of Gerry's letter?


Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #217 on: November 07, 2015, 01:18:54 PM »
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/full-letter-written-gerry-mccann-3389405

There you go.

"Please sign our petition" versus "just give us £10k".
I can see why you chose not to post Gerry's full, open letter.

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #218 on: November 07, 2015, 03:12:25 PM »
"Please sign our petition" versus "just give us £10k".
I can see why you chose not to post Gerry's full, open letter.
"02 Nov 2010 ... The fund has allowed: ... A 24 hour telephone line with translators to receive information from the public"
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/full-letter-written-gerry-mccann-3389405

"29 Aug 2010 ... for a year nobody even asked his company if they could listen to any of the calls received"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231757/Madeleine-McCann-investigator-didnt-listen-ANY-tip-offs-given-hotline--squandered-500-000.html

Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #219 on: November 07, 2015, 03:35:39 PM »
"02 Nov 2010 ... The fund has allowed: ... A 24 hour telephone line with translators to receive information from the public"
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/full-letter-written-gerry-mccann-3389405

"29 Aug 2010 ... for a year nobody even asked his company if they could listen to any of the calls received"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231757/Madeleine-McCann-investigator-didnt-listen-ANY-tip-offs-given-hotline--squandered-500-000.html

The 24hr hotline was the Metado3 one, apparently complete with translators.
The US hotline, organised by Halligan, wasn't paid for its services. His record as a fraudster speaks for itself & I don't think you can blame the Fund directors in any way for that.

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #220 on: November 07, 2015, 03:44:05 PM »
The 24hr hotline was the Metado3 one, apparently complete with translators.
The US hotline, organised by Halligan, wasn't paid for its services. His record as a fraudster speaks for itself & I don't think you can blame the Fund directors in any way for that.
There was me imagining that the parents and their PR man and the directors would have been keenly monitoring every week the response from that hotline they paid for in the US

Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #221 on: November 07, 2015, 04:13:33 PM »
There was me imagining that the parents and their PR man and the directors would have been keenly monitoring every week the response from that hotline they paid for in the US
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We don't know what BS was being fed to the FMF by Halligan. All above top secret stuff, probably.
Now, can we have an itemised list of legal expenses presented to PJGA?

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #222 on: November 07, 2015, 04:38:23 PM »
(snip) ...Now, can we have an itemised list of legal expenses presented to PJGA?
I will post that if you post itemised expenses presented to MFLNSUL by the twelve lawyer companies who they hired to search for the child Misty. And show me the invoices for the dozens of torches and sturdy boots those lawyers must surely have purchased to enable them to search effectively.

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #223 on: November 07, 2015, 04:41:49 PM »
We don't know what BS was being fed to the FMF by Halligan. All above top secret stuff, probably. ...(snip)
So you don't think anyone was interested in asking - "Oh BTW what sort of responses have we got from that hotline - any calls in the last year?"

Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral Legal Defence fund to be closed on 28 October 2015
« Reply #224 on: November 07, 2015, 04:53:36 PM »
So you don't think anyone was interested in asking - "Oh BTW what sort of responses have we got from that hotline - any calls in the last year?"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231757/Madeleine-McCann-investigator-didnt-listen-ANY-tip-offs-given-hotline--squandered-500-000.html

*snip*
"Mr Selle said his operators, in Annapolis, Virginia, had answered 'hundreds of calls', but the information seemed wasted - possibly squandering valuable leads.

He said: 'We delivered Oakley a report with a summary of the calls and said if they wanted to come back they could listen to the recording, but nobody did.



'For someone with an understanding of the case it would be very easy for some to say that maybe 80 or 90 per cent of the calls were hogwash, but there may be a percentage where one would say maybe we should listen to this one or listen to that one. But our understanding is that this never took place.

'We are not sure whether Halligen provided our report to the family or to the trust or to those working with them or to the teams working after him, because no one came back to us."

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Equally, there is no evidence the Fund directors did not see the report containing details of the calls.