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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #165 on: November 01, 2015, 03:37:41 PM »
Oh they knew there was going to be an abduction? oh right.. I thought we were talking about risks and responsibility.

The McCANN family felt it was safe. 'like sitting in your garden' but Jane Tanner and David Payne did a risk assessment,  and took some kind of action they believed to reduce the risk. The McCanns claim there was no risk and Maddie couldn't walk and wander- even though they left a door unlocked! now if they didn't think their daughter could walk  n wander why leave the door unlocked? did they plan this abduction?
Is this why Kate knew right away? but why use  a jemmie and window when a door is left unlocked?

If the patio door was open 'a hand's width' then in theory they could have returned to check after half an hour away and found three screaming children on the balcony. If not, why not?
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Offline Lace

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #166 on: November 01, 2015, 04:55:53 PM »
re the book she was casting aspersions against nursery staff that th ey might have drugged madeleine...sorry but thats out of order

I don't remember Kate saying the nursery staff may have drugged Madeleine mercury,  where is this in Kate's book?

I remember her saying regarding the stain on Madeleine's pyjama's that she thought maybe the abductor had tried to drug her the night before.

Offline mercury

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #167 on: November 01, 2015, 10:36:08 PM »
I don't remember Kate saying the nursery staff may have drugged Madeleine mercury,  where is this in Kate's book?

I remember her saying regarding the stain on Madeleine's pyjama's that she thought maybe the abductor had tried to drug her the night before.

She wrote maybe someone drugged her during  the day !! madeleine was in the care of her nanny...purleese!!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #168 on: November 01, 2015, 10:40:42 PM »
She wrote maybe someone drugged her during  the day !! madeleine was in the care of her nanny...purleese!!!
I doubt her nanny would have been expected to tatse her food first

Offline mercury

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #169 on: November 01, 2015, 11:02:25 PM »
I doubt her nanny would have been expected to tatse her food first

That makes  you as pathetic as kate mccann in her book apart from the fact she has never looked like a distraught mother...ever...no relevant emotions to be seen at all, just anger, arrogance, cintrol freakery and the like, how disturbing.....is that

cue barrage, thats what the truth does, ferret out the rats up the drainspipes lol


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Offline Lace

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #170 on: November 02, 2015, 09:01:54 AM »
She wrote maybe someone drugged her during  the day !! madeleine was in the care of her nanny...purleese!!!

Please say where in Kate's book she wrote that,  I have read Kate's book and I really don't remember her saying it.  Please give me a page number.

Offline Lace

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #171 on: November 02, 2015, 09:06:06 AM »
That makes  you as pathetic as kate mccann in her book apart from the fact she has never looked like a distraught mother...ever...no relevant emotions to be seen at all, just anger, arrogance, cintrol freakery and the like, how disturbing.....is that

cue barrage, thats what the truth does, ferret out the rats up the drainspipes lol

Mercury,  I am really surprised at you,   even though you are obviously anti McCann,   I have always found your posts worthy of reading,  apart from our spat about the cadaver dogs.

That remark 'she has never looked like a distraught mother...ever'    is such a ridiculous one to make,  Kate looked every bit a distraught mother to all that saw her on the evening of the 3rd of May,  how do you explain the fact that the Ocean Club manager himself stated that he heard her cry and he has never in his life heard a cry like it.   Please don't make comments like that when you have absolutely no proof as you were not there.

Offline Benice

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #172 on: November 02, 2015, 10:05:30 AM »
Mercury,  I am really surprised at you,   even though you are obviously anti McCann,   I have always found your posts worthy of reading,  apart from our spat about the cadaver dogs.

That remark 'she has never looked like a distraught mother...ever'    is such a ridiculous one to make,  Kate looked every bit a distraught mother to all that saw her on the evening of the 3rd of May,  how do you explain the fact that the Ocean Club manager himself stated that he heard her cry and he has never in his life heard a cry like it.   Please don't make comments like that when you have absolutely no proof as you were not there.

Bridget O'Donnel WAS there and observed the following:   

Quote from The Evening Standard.

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Ms O'Donnell said that two days after Madeleine vanished the appearance of the McCanns - later made official suspects - was in complete contrast to their relaxed manner even in the minutes before the alarm was raised.

"The physical transformation of these two human beings was sickening... Kate's back and shoulders, her hands, her mouth had reshaped themselves into the angular-manifestation of a silent scream," she said, reinforcing claims that Mrs McCann could not be implicated in her daughter's disappearance because even an actor could not fake such anguish.

"Gerry was upright, his lips now drawn into a thin, impenetrable line."

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Any claim that Kate has never looked like a distraught mother is simply not true as several eye witnesses have confirmed - and showing piccies of her smiling on other occasions will not alter that fact.

IIRC Kerry Needham was similarly castigated by a passenger on a bus for 'smiling'.   Such ignorance is appallingly cruel IMO.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #173 on: November 02, 2015, 10:18:45 AM »
Bridget O'Donnel WAS there and observed the following:   

Quote from The Evening Standard.

Snip.......................................
Ms O'Donnell said that two days after Madeleine vanished the appearance of the McCanns - later made official suspects - was in complete contrast to their relaxed manner even in the minutes before the alarm was raised.

"The physical transformation of these two human beings was sickening... Kate's back and shoulders, her hands, her mouth had reshaped themselves into the angular-manifestation of a silent scream," she said, reinforcing claims that Mrs McCann could not be implicated in her daughter's disappearance because even an actor could not fake such anguish.

"Gerry was upright, his lips now drawn into a thin, impenetrable line."

Snip................
Unquote

Any claim that Kate has never looked like a distraught mother is simply not true as several eye witnesses have confirmed - and showing piccies of her smiling on other occasions will not alter that fact.

IIRC Kerry Needham was similarly castigated by a passenger on a bus for 'smiling'.   Such ignorance is appallingly cruel IMO.

Ah, more Mills and Boon type quotes.

Same old 'poor mccann' act.

It may work with the supporters, but anyone with a modicum of intelligence will see through all this type of pro-mccann propaganda.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #174 on: November 02, 2015, 10:34:16 AM »
Ah, more Mills and Boon type quotes.

Same old 'poor mccann' act.

It may work with the supporters, but anyone with a modicum of intelligence will see through all this type of pro-mccann propaganda.

are you suggesting that McCann supporters ..such as myself...do not have a modicum of intelligence

Offline Lace

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #175 on: November 02, 2015, 11:15:11 AM »
Ah, more Mills and Boon type quotes.

Same old 'poor mccann' act.

It may work with the supporters, but anyone with a modicum of intelligence will see through all this type of pro-mccann propaganda.
There is no need for what you call 'Mills and Boon'  quotes,  the McCann's were clearly distraught at finding their daughter missing there were many witnesses to that fact and people like you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting they were play acting.

Imagine being the parents of a missing child and someone saying they were putting on an act.

In your opinion then they were laughing and patting themselves on the back because their daughter was dead. 
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Offline Lace

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #176 on: November 02, 2015, 11:18:50 AM »
are you suggesting that McCann supporters ..such as myself...do not have a modicum of intelligence

Not just you and I and other McCann supporters davel,  but all the witnesses who saw the McCann's that night, plus the SY detectives who have had years of experience dealing with cases where someone has gone missing.

The man is unbelievably arrogant.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #177 on: November 02, 2015, 11:19:41 AM »
Ah, more Mills and Boon type quotes.

Same old 'poor mccann' act.

It may work with the supporters, but anyone with a modicum of intelligence will see through all this type of pro-mccann propaganda.

The McCanns did look bad in the early days, but we don't know why. It could be because their daughter was abducted, and it could also be for other reasons.
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Offline Benice

Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #178 on: November 02, 2015, 11:23:06 AM »
Ah, more Mills and Boon type quotes.

Same old 'poor mccann' act.

It may work with the supporters, but anyone with a modicum of intelligence will see through all this type of pro-mccann propaganda.

Are you claiming that Bridget O'Donell  (who had never met the McCanns before this holiday) is blatently lying when she describes the terrible state of anguish that the McCanns were in - and which she saw with her own eyes?

Why would she do that? 

 
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?
« Reply #179 on: November 02, 2015, 11:25:59 AM »
Are you claiming that Bridget O'Donell  (who had never met the McCanns before this holiday) is blatently lying when she describes the terrible state of anguish that the McCanns were in - and which she saw with her own eyes?

Why would she do that?

She was giving an opinion.

As we know, an opinion counts for nothing.