My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock

[rotti]

hi i think the wet suit was protection against blood evidence.after wiping himself down and leaving the scene he could get home have a hot shower and all blood evidence would go down plughole.no scratches would be on his body.ds jones asked bamber about the lack of towels in his bath room the morning of the murders.but he could just as well bought a change of clothing with him and simply changed before leaving farmhouse.you say 2 jumpers a blouson.i suggest you have no proof whatsoever what he was wearing the night or morning of the murders.you only know what he turned up in at the farm at 3am.unless some one from the grave told you it was 2 jumpers and a blouson.for you to add a stupid cartoon caption when you dont know yourself is laughable.hi adam i only think she was shot in bed because of the blood pattern on her nightdress .i am no expert but the blood on the nighty  doesnt look right for a suicide.if she pushed the trigger while sat on the floor her head would immediately fall backwards the blood would run down the side of the neck and pool on the carpet near her neck .and had she sot herself with her back proped against Neville's bedside cabinet she would have blood on the front and left side of her night .but theres none not even a speck.i am sure we have all carried a sleeping child say a 8 yearold you put 1 arm beneath the knee joints and the other just below the shoulders  and we make sure the head is forward and tucked into our body .not hanging back .now apply that to the photo of Sheila.if she had been shot in bed and than bamber carried her from the left hand bed in her room .than the blood pattern is spot on .i favour him hiding the kitchen phone because he thought if something goes wrong and 3 adults start fleeing in different directions their would not find a phone to tell anyone its bamber doing the killing i dont think he would have took that chance.mine are all theories .think like bamber would have

[rotti]

 i dont know what dci jones was looking for when he stared at sheilas body for 10 whole minutes than said it was suicide.he did not realise sheilas feet were free from blood so she couldn't have been running about that house.also some have said she was led into the bedroom at gunpoint .if so there would have been blood on her feet .staring down the barrel of a rifle i dont think she would be looking on the floor so she could avoid blood.i think stepping in blood would be the last thing on her mind

[rotti]

 

Then why didn't the pub landlord also point out the same to him before he asked the Eatons.  Smells pigeony to me.

[rotti]

Yeah the police would have bought it that Nevill phoned him if he was killed in his sleep...

Sherlock fits you like nicknaming John Candy "tiny".

hi master scipio i didnt say the paragraph above .i said after shooting them in their sleep he would have staged the scene.i wonder if there is a village missing an idiot.years ago there was always a village idiot

[adam]

hi master scipio i didnt say the paragraph above .i said after shooting them in their sleep he would have staged the scene.i wonder if there is a village missing an idiot.years ago there was always a village idiot

That was Bamber's aim. Shoot them all in their sleep. Then stage the scene.

[rotti]

That was Bamber's aim. Shoot them all in their sleep. Then stage the scene.

yes i agree adam

[Eleanor]

There are things that make me feel very uneasy about the conviction of Jeremy Bamber.

[rotti]

There are things that make me feel very uneasy about the conviction of Jeremy Bamber.

hi Eleanor .what things in particular bother you.anthing specific

[rotti]

the blood evidence on the nightie.does not prove absolutely that she had been shot first while she  was sat up .as some have said .she could just as easily been shot while she slept bought into the master bedroom and sat up against the bedroom cabinet.for a while before bamber realised she may not die.than moved her flat and shot her again

[Eleanor]

hi Eleanor .what things in particular bother you.anthing specific

Apart from a complete balls up initially, No, not really, except that I have seen a photograph of the feet of Sheila that were showing signs of glass cuts.  {Glass on the kitchen floor when she could have shot her Father?}  She also did have obvious mental health issues.
I think I saw this photograph on this Forum, but I wouldn't know how to retrieve it.

I have mostly stayed out of this because I don't have the knowledge that most of you have, but I am uneasy.

Dare I ask you to use some punctuation and sentences?  Some of what you say is lost to me because it  is difficult to read.  Please God that you won't see this as a gross criticism.

[rotti]

Apart from a complete balls up initially, No, not really, except that I have seen a photograph of the feet of Sheila that were showing signs of glass cuts.  {Glass on the kitchen floor when she could have shot her Father?}  She also did have obvious mental health issues.
I think I saw this photograph on this Forum, but I wouldn't know how to retrieve it.

I have mostly stayed out of this because I don't have the knowledge that most of you have, but I am uneasy.

Dare I ask you to use some punctuation and sentences?  Some of what you say is lost to me because it  is difficult to read.  Please God that you won't see this as a gross criticism.

no not at all Eleanor .i will try' but iam not that good on the computer .the police were fooled by bamber .but i suspect if dci Jones remained alive he would have to pay for his incompetence.as member 'John' put it the photo showing blood on sheilas feet were photoshopped .faked. had they been real the carpet underneath the feet would be beige and not green .and the one showing glass could also be fake .no mention of it was made at original trial .

[Holly Goodhead]

adam/sherlock

Just to clarify then you dont beleive JB planned his 'alibi' the phone call?  It was an afterthought? 

[Myster]

Apart from a complete balls up initially, No, not really, except that I have seen a photograph of the feet of Sheila that were showing signs of glass cuts.  {Glass on the kitchen floor when she could have shot her Father?}  She also did have obvious mental health issues.
I think I saw this photograph on this Forum, but I wouldn't know how to retrieve it.

Bamber's legal team were clutching at straws with the bloodied foot submission, Eleanor. The marks can be interpreted in different ways and are not necessarily cuts - dirt from the kitchen floor is possible, but that could have been transferred at any time before she came to bed; marks from the insoles of any slippers she wore; transfer from the blood spots dropped by June onto the floor of the master bedroom as Sheila (was) walked through from her own bedroom.

Her mental condition was sufficiently under control with monthly Haloperidol injections.

[adam]

When did I say that ?

I have always believed he planned to create the siege situation. It was his best option.

[Holly Goodhead]

the blood evidence on the nightie.does not prove absolutely that she had been shot first while she  was sat up .as some have said .she could just as easily been shot while she slept bought into the master bedroom and sat up against the bedroom cabinet.for a while before bamber realised she may not die.than moved her flat and shot her again

What would be the point of JB moving SC?  Although overall I'm inclined to see JB as the victim of a MoJ I can't really explain SC taking her own life in her parent's room and the room where June was found, who by all accounts SC had a very difficult relationship with.  If SC was found in her own room this would surely seem more authentic?