My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock

[adam]

There was no phone in the bedroom. Jeremy had allegedly played Box and Cox with the house phones

The bedroom phone was in the kitchen. He could move it upstairs.

[adam]

I think she was sufficiently alert to attempt to hide, though obviously not successfully. It seems odd that she was found wedged up tight against her father's side of the bed, whereas if she was totally out of it with medication she might have been killed in her own room.

The whole incident imo happened quickly, within a few minutes at the most. It only takes around 4 to 5 seconds to fire off a 10 round magazine. Sheila might not have realised that it was her brother, but thought it could have been a burglar or someone with a grievance against Nevill.  Bamber might have been masked or blacked up to conceal his identity too, so she didn't recognize him. People have different reactions when having a rifle pointed at them, but being dozy and depressed could have made her more compliant than normal.

I believe the twins were last in line. Between them they took eight shots, thought by Vanezis to have been fired successively, which meant the magazine would be almost empty and have needed refilling before he attempted to kill his parents. Hence more time wasted. Shooting the twins first would also make enough noise to waken his parents and put them on their guard, which is why they were first to be killed.

There is no chance of Sheila hearing the rifle. It is literally silent with the silencer on.

[APRIL]

The bedroom phone was in the kitchen. He could move it upstairs.

If the phone was downstairs, presumably Nevill wouldn't have known. I can't think why you're saying Jeremy could have moved it upstairs when he'd moved it downstairs so Nevill couldn't use it. It would have been of no use once Nevill was dead downstairs and June was dead upstairs.

[adam]

If the phone was downstairs, presumably Nevill wouldn't have known. I can't think why you're saying Jeremy could have moved it upstairs when he'd moved it downstairs so Nevill couldn't use it. It would have been of no use once Nevill was dead downstairs and June was dead upstairs.

I've no idea where the phones were on the night of the massacre. But I am sure Neville knew. He did live there.

The bedroom phone was plugged into the kitchen socket. The kitchen phone was underneath magazines, but in working order.

Bamber just had to take the kitchen phone off the hook to disable all phones upon entrance. He was expecting a silent execution with everyone in bed.

If Neville and June were shot and killed in the main bedroom, he just had to plug the bedroom phone in there and take it off the hook.

[rotti]

There was no phone in the bedroom. Jeremy had allegedly played Box and Cox with the house phones

the kitchen phone was found in perfect working order 'hidden under some magazines. as myster said if his plan had gone the way he wanted.than neville would be on the floor where sheila was found'and bamber would have replaced the bedroom phone from the kitchen and replaced the bedroom phone back upstairs  off the hook and the police would think that this was where he phoned bamber from.in other words all phones would be in there proper places with the bedroom one being left off the hook

[APRIL]

I've no idea where the phones were on the night of the massacre. But I am sure Neville knew. He did live there.

The bedroom phone was plugged into the kitchen socket. The kitchen phone was underneath magazines, but in working order.

Bamber just had to take the kitchen phone off the hook to disable all phones upon entrance. He was expecting a silent execution with everyone in bed.

If Neville and June were shot and killed in the main bedroom, he just had to plug the bedroom phone in there and take it off the hook.

Rather than posting more threads, perhaps you should take more advantage of the wealth of information in the blue archives. I'm sure you'll learn about the re positioning of the phones.

[rotti]

I've no idea where the phones were on the night of the massacre. But I am sure Neville knew. He did live there.

The bedroom phone was plugged into the kitchen socket. The kitchen phone was underneath magazines, but in working order.

Bamber just had to take the kitchen phone off the hook to disable all phones upon entrance. He was expecting a silent execution with everyone in bed.

If Neville and June were shot and killed in the main bedroom, he just had to plug the bedroom phone in there and take it off the hook.

[rotti]

Rather than posting more threads, perhaps you should take more advantage of the wealth of information in the blue archives. I'm sure you'll learn about the re positioning of the phones.

the blue site is controlled by bamber supporters.you will find very few truths there

[rotti]

If the phone was downstairs, presumably Nevill wouldn't have known. I can't think why you're saying Jeremy could have moved it upstairs when he'd moved it downstairs so Nevill couldn't use it. It would have been of no use once Nevill was dead downstairs and June was dead upstairs.

how could he not have known where the phones in his house were.some have said why he went to kitchen and not front door was to either reach the kitchen or office phone 'maybe even try to arm himself from the gun cabinet.i believe at that particular time he had not received the 4 fatal shots the Doctor said would have immediately rendered him unconscious or instant death

[rotti]

is there any evidence the drops of blood found near sheila and on the blue socks. &%+((£ was hers or junes

[rotti]

Given my stance on the case SC committing suicide in the main bedroom is one of the mysteries for me.  I can only specualte over the reasons such as comforting Crispy if he/she was distressed (she was a known animal lover); best vantage point from the main bedroom window to view all the goings on outside especially if she was paranoid she had previously thought the CIA were following her so seeing all the police and TFU with firearms might have really freaked her out especially the loud hailer; June's bible perhaps it was one she knew June marked highlighting text she wanted to read.

sheila never saw any police .she was deceased well before any police turned up.ds jones asked bamber about that bible in police interview .bamber replied he may have handled that bible .when asked why he said cant remember but maybe to threaten the dog.asked when he threatened the dog.he said NO COMMENT.very telling

[rotti]

Lol I cant be arsed either    Jean Boutell, the housekeeper, said a few bits that were normally kept around the sink had been moved but this was later attributed to the police officers cleaning up.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=569.0;attach=1849

sherlock any chance you can support your posts with some documentary evidence?

yes i will as soon as i learn how to. not very good on computers.i cant even underline a specific sentence .to show what iam responding to.i can just imagine the officers doing the dishes

[puglove]

the blue site is controlled by bamber supporters.you will find very few truths there

You're right, Sherlock. There was a time when the blue forum had brilliant members - bob, kaldin, Hartley, Sparks, Andrea, Vidvic, Paul and Simon .....sorry if I've missed out some legends. But now it's just poor old mad Mike and Peggy Mount. It's Boresville, Arizona, and does Bamber no favours at all.

(You're right about the bible, too.)

[rotti]

You're right, Sherlock. There was a time when the blue forum had brilliant members - bob, kaldin, Hartley, Sparks, Andrea, Vidvic, Paul and Simon .....sorry if I've missed out some legends. But now it's just poor old mad Mike and Peggy Mount. It's Boresville, Arizona, and does Bamber no favours at all.

(You're right about the bible, too.)

hi puglove.i think mike tesko is well overdue a drugs test.he wants part of the million pounds the childkiller has offered anyone with evidence to free him

[puglove]

hi puglove.i think mike tesko is well overdue a drugs test.he wants part of the million pounds the childkiller has offered anyone with evidence to free him

Ho ho!! (I wonder what happened to that million pounds?)

I don't know if you saw it, sherlock, but a couple of weeks ago,  Mike made a very entertaining and informative video of himself discussing the case whilst gurning on the toilet. I'm sure it made Bamber feel just that little bit closer to freedom.