My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock

[rotti]

"By Default" is simply not good enough.  Can you not see that?  Did they find Gun Shot Residue on Jeremy Bamber?

And please don't tell me that The Police left it for too long.  Even I in my ignorance know that.

And how long do you think it would take me to suss out how to load a gun?  Sheila had been around guns for most of her life, while I don't have the first idea.  I could do it in about two minutes..  It's hardly rocket science.
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But I am simply trying to make a case for his innocence

Incidentally, do you remember  The Birminigham  Six?  Or was it The Manchester Ten?  Hand forensics mean nothing. 

The Police cock up sometimes,  and they badly did on this one.  Any minute now you will be telling me that Jimmy Savile was a paedophile.  Although they appear to have more evidence against him than they ever had against Jeremy Bamber

the police made lots of mistakes and bad decisions but their mistakes did not change the evidence found at the scene.as for jim willfixit.he couldnt fix it for himself

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https://youtu.be/8ow_YqRICT4

This is how quiet a similar rifle is with a silencer.

add to that the fact sheila may have been fast asleep under medication

[david1819]

Sheila didn't wake. There was no blood on her feet and hands. Which there would have been if she had attended to June.

She did wake. The blood on her night dress shows she was sitting up when one of the shots were fired. There was blood on her hands, if you look at the high resolution photos from the sky3 program you can see it clearly along with her bloody fingerprints on the night dress , you can also read Vanesiz original autopsy were he writes the palm of her hand was bloody.

Bamber shot Sheila once, last,  in bed and carried her out of  bed to make it look like she had been up. Then shot her again in the main bedroom when he realised she was still alive.

There is no blood on Sheila's bed or the room she was sleeping in that night. the above theory is impossible

[david1819]

add to that the fact sheila may have been fast asleep under medication

You cant make a judgment on how loud the weapon would be based on a video clip. Turn the volume up and down and the gun then seems as loud or as quiet as you like it to be.

[rotti]

She did wake. The blood on her night dress shows she was sitting up when one of the shots were fired. There was blood on her hands, if you look at the high resolution photos from the sky3 program you can see it clearly along with her bloody fingerprints on the night dress , you can also read Vanesiz original autopsy were he writes the palm of her hand was bloody.

There is no blood on Sheila's bed or the room she was sleeping in that night. the above theory is impossible

if there was blood on sheilas sheet bamber would have simple changed it and took the blooded one with him.i dont think she was ever awake .when he staged the scene sheila hand could have touched her nightie.it also could get there as he carried her to the bedroom.lifted as i have suggested her right arm would be tight against her body on top and tightly against bambers chest.

[david1819]

if there was blood on sheilas sheet bamber would have simple changed it and took the blooded one with him.i dont think she was ever awake .when he staged the scene sheila hand could have touched her nightie.it also could get there as he carried her to the bedroom.lifted as i have suggested her right arm would be tight against her body on top and tightly against bambers chest.

If he staged the scene not when. I cannot imagine Jeremy taking bloody bed sheets on his bike ride back home along with his scuba diving outfit this is getting beyond rediculas

[rotti]

If he staged the scene not when. I cannot imagine Jeremy taking bloody bed sheets on his bike ride back home along with his scuba diving outfit this is getting beyond rediculas

no when he staged the scene .if sheila was sleeping with her head on the pillow when shot. there may have only been blood on that pillow and not on the sheet.a bedsheet form a single bed can be folded up smaller than you think.he wasnt over loaded  in my opinion.he  arrived at the farm that morning wearing wetsuit trainers.a jacket scarf around his face so no one would recognise him had they seen him riding the bike. and mask in his pocket

[adam]

She did wake. The blood on her night dress shows she was sitting up when one of the shots were fired. There was blood on her hands, if you look at the high resolution photos from the sky3 program you can see it clearly along with her bloody fingerprints on the night dress , you can also read Vanesiz original autopsy were he writes the palm of her hand was bloody.

There is no blood on Sheila's bed or the room she was sleeping in that night. the above theory is impossible

She may have been sitting up for the first or second shot.

Bamber may have pulled a sleeping Sheila into a sitting position when she was in bed. To get a good aim. That would not be hard.

Or his second shot in the main bedroom she may have been sitting up. The 2002 appeal report said Sheila's legs were pulled after the second shot.

There is no reason why there should be blood in Sheila's bed. If she was sitting up and then carried away straight away. Nothing would drip down.

[adam]

You cant make a judgment on how loud the weapon would be based on a video clip. Turn the volume up and down and the gun then seems as loud or as quiet as you like it to be.

You seem to believe the silencer would not have made a rifle for shooting vermin, virtually silent. Despite a video clip.

[adam]

if there was blood on sheilas sheet bamber would have simple changed it and took the blooded one with him.i dont think she was ever awake .when he staged the scene sheila hand could have touched her nightie.it also could get there as he carried her to the bedroom.lifted as i have suggested her right arm would be tight against her body on top and tightly against bambers chest.

That's a good point. He had that option.

Maybe he did do this and then made Sheila's bed. Supporters often say Sheila's bed looks like it had never been slept in.

Or as you said, he just needed to take one pillow case. Sheila would have been shot once in the neck while in bed.

[david1819]

no when he staged the scene .if sheila was sleeping with her head on the pillow when shot. there may have only been blood on that pillow and not on the sheet.a bedsheet form a single bed can be folded up smaller than you think.he wasnt over loaded  in my opinion.he  arrived at the farm that morning wearing wetsuit trainers.a jacket scarf around his face so no one would recognise him had they seen him riding the bike. and mask in his pocket

No if he staged the scene. I suggest you look at the crime scene photos of the room Shelia slept in the pillows are spotless, even more importantly the blood spatter or Shelias night dress shows she was sitting up when shot then fell backwards. Your theories do not match the crime scene.

[rotti]

She may have been sitting up for the first or second shot.

Bamber may have pulled a sleeping Sheila into a sitting position when she was in bed. To get a good aim. That would not be hard.

Or his second shot in the main bedroom she may have been sitting up. The 2002 appeal report said Sheila's legs were pulled after the second shot.

There is no reason why there should be blood in Sheila's bed. If she was sitting up and then carried away straight away. Nothing would drip down.

my thoughts exactly adam.also the blood splatter expert saying she was shot first while sitting up right.but i think she could have been shot while flat than taken and placed up right in the bedroom.still alive she would than have been pulled flat and shot again/

[rotti]

No if he staged the scene. I suggest you look at the crime scene photos of the room Shelia slept in the pillows are spotless, even more importantly the blood spatter or Shelias night dress shows she was sitting up when shot then fell backwards. Your theories do not match the crime scene.

they would be be spotless because the pillow case never had sheila head on it .its the one he replaced.i suggest .i dont see any blood splatter on her nightie. i  can see where blood has ran and pooled also soaked into her nightie.you would not get much splatter from a .22 bullet.plus there are no edges to the blood found on her showing me the blood has soaked not splatted/.a splatter is when blood is thrown from a wound .and by the streaks it makes when it lands expert could than tell you which directions it came from

[adam]

People seem to think because she may have been sitting when receiving a shot, that she was awake.

Bamber had the freedom to move her into his chosen positions. The first shot because she was asleep. The second because she had already been shot. Bamber was also a lot stronger than her.

[rotti]

People seem to think because she may have been sitting when receiving a shot, that she was awake.

Bamber had the freedom to move her into his chosen positions. The first shot because she was asleep. The second because she had already been shot. Bamber was also a lot stronger than her.

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