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Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #195 on: December 16, 2015, 10:43:18 PM »
Its simple, she either walked into the room herself then seeing the police from outside the main bedroom window realised suicide was the best option. Or Jeremy chased her into that location pinned her to the floor then forced the barrel of the rifle on her neck then shot her.

Why overcomplicate things with over-imaginative and fanciful theories? That is Mikes Speciality
if she walked or was chased into the room where are there no  blood stains on her feet .why in the photo of her laying on the floor next to the blood droplets .are the droplets not smudged as she  would have had to walk over them

Offline scipio_usmc

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #196 on: December 16, 2015, 11:51:12 PM »
if she walked or was chased into the room where are there no  blood stains on her feet .why in the photo of her laying on the floor next to the blood droplets .are the droplets not smudged as she  would have had to walk over them

Because it was a carpet not tiles. Blood soaks into carpeting and other fabric materials. Even on tile though stepping in a drip is not going to spread much. If blood pools then it will stick well to most of a foot or shoe thus allowing the foot or shoe to leave recognizable prints and the print can be found in the blood pool itself sometimes.



   
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Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #197 on: December 17, 2015, 12:02:58 AM »
Because it was a carpet not tiles. Blood soaks into carpeting and other fabric materials. Even on tile though stepping in a drip is not going to spread much. If blood pools then it will stick well to most of a foot or shoe thus allowing the foot or shoe to leave recognizable prints and the print can be found in the blood pool itself sometimes.



 
i stand corrected.thank you master.scipio usmc 8)><(
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david1819

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Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #198 on: December 17, 2015, 12:08:07 AM »
also why not mention the fact she could not have known how to release the mag and chamber a round.

Because its not a fact she did not know how to operate and reload the rifle, The women was not stupid.

Offline Admin

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #199 on: December 17, 2015, 01:05:42 AM »
i stand corrected.thank you master 8)><(

sherlock, could you refer to members by their correct name please.

Offline adam

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #200 on: December 17, 2015, 05:23:37 AM »
Peter Eaton said in his draft answers for the COLP interview that he had seen Shelia use and fire a gun at a holiday in Scotland. This was also mentioned at trial and the Dickinson Inquiry. There are many discrepancies in this area, Also there exists a Photo of Shelia holding a gun that David Boultflour sais he himself has seen.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5DLsf0UggyWN1FEdlh5dUdRWkNfR0prdUJVclFldw/view?pref=2&pli=1

It's always been very flimsy that Sheila knew how to chamber, load and accurately fire the rifle, because she went on a shooting party, nine years earlier.

There is nothing saying she was taught how to load and chamber a rifle on this shooting party. Or that she even fired any bullets.  If she did fire bullets, it would have been from a rifle already loaded for her.

She was 18 at the time, so doubtful anyone at the shooting party would teach her to load and chamber, or she was interested in learning. If a woman has shown no interest by the time she is 18, things won't change. And they didn't. She probably went along for a bit of fresh air and exercise.

CC said she had no experience of guns. Bamber testified she had 'limited' experience with guns. Which probably meant she fired a water pistol one summer. He couldn't say 'no' experience at court.

Sheila was in a mad rage. AE said she could see Sheila firing off ten bullets of an already loaded gun, but not chambering and re loading. She could barely put sugar into coffee.
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Offline Admin

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #201 on: December 17, 2015, 08:55:13 AM »
Wasn't Sheila so much anti guns that she wouldn't allow her sons to play with toy guns?

Offline Myster

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #202 on: December 17, 2015, 09:08:10 AM »
Wasn't Sheila so much anti guns that she wouldn't allow her sons to play with toy guns?

A toy gun was found on a table in one of the other rooms, so Uncle Jem probably bought it for the twins and was teaching them straight-shooting in the opium fields.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #203 on: December 17, 2015, 10:37:22 AM »
sherlock, could you refer to members by their correct name please.
is it alright to put master before their names.the post above everybody can see  who iam replying to and referring to.if you dont want me to refer to you as master admin please tell me and i will stop.the things some people call each other on here are far worse than being called master.and it makes a change to compliment someone rather than call them something derogatory.have John or Scipio usmc.been offended by me calling them master.if so they can massage me and tell me to stop.why you would write the above i do not know iam only showing some respect which makes a change on here 8()(((@#
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Offline Myster

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #204 on: December 17, 2015, 10:52:12 AM »
You can call me anything you want, sherlock... Mystermaster or Mastermyster will suffice and boost my flagging ego... but deffo not pillock, numpty or bonehead.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #205 on: December 17, 2015, 11:00:14 AM »
i would love to see this case come up for retrial.with master john.and master scipio usmc leading the prosecution.they would absolutely batter bambers £1500 a day lawyers.i mean proper rip them apart and make them  look like idiots.all their expensive law training would be useless when coming up against the 2 above.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 01:44:58 PM by sherlock »

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #206 on: December 17, 2015, 11:05:38 AM »
You can call me anything you want, sherlock... Mystermaster or Mastermyster will suffice and boost my flagging ego... but deffo not pillock, numpty or bonehead.
wouldn't dream of calling you any of the above except the first two. i like and respect you.and your therioes. 8((()*/
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 01:47:20 PM by sherlock »

Offline Myster

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #207 on: December 17, 2015, 11:18:29 AM »
wouldn't dream of calling you any of the above.i like and respect you.and your therioes. 8((()*/

... and I love you too!
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #208 on: December 17, 2015, 01:54:47 PM »
It's always been very flimsy that Sheila knew how to chamber, load and accurately fire the rifle, because she went on a shooting party, nine years earlier.

There is nothing saying she was taught how to load and chamber a rifle on this shooting party. Or that she even fired any bullets.  If she did fire bullets, it would have been from a rifle already loaded for her.

She was 18 at the time, so doubtful anyone at the shooting party would teach her to load and chamber, or she was interested in learning. If a woman has shown no interest by the time she is 18, things won't change. And they didn't. She probably went along for a bit of fresh air and exercise.

CC said she had no experience of guns. Bamber testified she had 'limited' experience with guns. Which probably meant she fired a water pistol one summer. He couldn't say 'no' experience at court.

Sheila was in a mad rage. AE said she could see Sheila firing off ten bullets of an already loaded gun, but not chambering and re loading. She could barely put sugar into coffee.
very nicely put adam 8((()*/ 8@??)(

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #209 on: December 17, 2015, 02:09:36 PM »
Because its not a fact she did not know how to operate and reload the rifle, The women was not stupid.
i would like to give a normal house wife with the same lack of interest in firearms as sheila . the rifle used and ask her to release the magazine and chamber a round.and see how long it would take or if she would ever work out how its done.a member who is familiar with firearms has already said.by looking at a photo of that rifle .that sheila may have figured out how to release the magazine but not how to chamber a round.intelligence would not necessarily help you figure out how to use that rifle.experience with firearms would stand you a better chance. SHE HAD NONE.i bet she didnt even know which way the bullet heads faced when inserting them into the magazine. &%+((£
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