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Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #210 on: December 17, 2015, 02:22:16 PM »
there is no evidence what so ever.that she had been shown how to load' fire ;or release the magazine on a semi auto rifle.i doubt she even knew what semi auto meant.i have read a member on here say she kept her finger on the trigger thats the reason 2 shots were fired.and it was either master scipio usmc or master john who explained . that keeping the trigger pressed would not discharge 2 shots.the trigger has to be released and pressed again.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 02:31:50 PM by sherlock »

Offline adam

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #211 on: December 17, 2015, 03:44:40 PM »
very nicely put adam 8((()*/ 8@??)(

Thank you.

All of Bamber's excuses to try to prove his innocence have always been unbelievably weak.

Offline scipio_usmc

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #212 on: December 17, 2015, 04:38:42 PM »
there is no evidence what so ever.that she had been shown how to load' fire ;or release the magazine on a semi auto rifle.i doubt she even knew what semi auto meant.i have read a member on here say she kept her finger on the trigger thats the reason 2 shots were fired.and it was either master scipio usmc or master john who explained . that keeping the trigger pressed would not discharge 2 shots.the trigger has to be released and pressed again.

Full-auto means the weapon will fire until either the trigger is released or the gun runs out of bullets.

Semi-auto results in a single bullet being fired for each trigger pull. It is called semi-auto because the action of pulling the trigger will result in not only a bullet firing but also another bullet will be automatically fed into the chamber and the hammer automatically cocked so that it can be fired again with nothing else required except a pull of the trigger. Experts are taught how to doubeltap the weapon this means to pull the trigger 2 ties in rapid succession so that shots are fired slit seconds apart.

The murder weapon was a semi-auto.  Even if it had been a full-auto weapon it would not make it anymore plausible that she or anyone else held the trigger down long enough for 2 bullets to fire in rapid succession.  The medical evidence established several seconds passed between the 2 shots.  That is too long for a double tap of a semi-auto weapon or a 2 round burst from full auto.  In the meantime if a doubletap or burst the wounds would have been fired from the same general location at virtually the same angle. Both shots were fired with the killer in a different position.

Moreover, there is no question at all that after the first shot Sheila put her outer palm/wrist area to her neck resulting in blood running down her arm before the second shot was fired.  Quite clearly she could not do this if she were holding the weapon and the killer waited long enough for her arm to be out of the way before firing again.

“...there are three classes of intellects: one which comprehends by itself; another which appreciates what others comprehend; and a third which neither comprehends by itself nor by the showing of others; the first is the most excellent, the second is good, the third is useless.”  Niccolò Machiavelli

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #213 on: December 17, 2015, 05:49:52 PM »
Full-auto means the weapon will fire until either the trigger is released or the gun runs out of bullets.

Semi-auto results in a single bullet being fired for each trigger pull. It is called semi-auto because the action of pulling the trigger will result in not only a bullet firing but also another bullet will be automatically fed into the chamber and the hammer automatically cocked so that it can be fired again with nothing else required except a pull of the trigger. Experts are taught how to doubeltap the weapon this means to pull the trigger 2 ties in rapid succession so that shots are fired slit seconds apart.

The murder weapon was a semi-auto.  Even if it had been a full-auto weapon it would not make it anymore plausible that she or anyone else held the trigger down long enough for 2 bullets to fire in rapid succession.  The medical evidence established several seconds passed between the 2 shots.  That is too long for a double tap of a semi-auto weapon or a 2 round burst from full auto.  In the meantime if a doubletap or burst the wounds would have been fired from the same general location at virtually the same angle. Both shots were fired with the killer in a different position.

Moreover, there is no question at all that after the first shot Sheila put her outer palm/wrist area to her neck resulting in blood running down her arm before the second shot was fired.  Quite clearly she could not do this if she were holding the weapon and the killer waited long enough for her arm to be out of the way before firing again.
excellent 8((()*/ 8@??)( 8@??)(

Offline adam

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #214 on: December 17, 2015, 06:35:16 PM »
Someone as docile as Sheila loading, chambering, going crazy with a rifle,  bare footed in a nightie.

What does Neville do ? Rings Jeremy. Can't see it.

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #215 on: December 17, 2015, 08:45:06 PM »
Someone as docile as Sheila loading, chambering, going crazy with a rifle,  bare footed in a nightie.

What does Neville do ? Rings Jeremy. Can't see it.
@)(++(*.than fighting with neville and all done without even chipping or breaking her finger nails.not even a spec of nail varnish missing.impossible @)(++(*

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #216 on: December 17, 2015, 09:22:52 PM »
its one thing to know all the facts but quite another to present them clearly and correctly. the masters 'john and scipio usmc' do both beutifully.they have to be respected.so must .myster.adam.puglove.excellent sleuths.all have helped me make my mind up on this case.thanks guys 8((()*/ 8@??)(

Offline scipio_usmc

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #217 on: December 17, 2015, 09:34:09 PM »
@)(++(*.than fighting with neville and all done without even chipping or breaking her finger nails.not even a spec of nail varnish missing.impossible @)(++(*

The killer bashed Nevill with the rifle more than a dozen times.  The killer did so by gripping the stock with one hand and gripping the butt around the narrow portion with the other hand and thrusting the butt into Nevill.  Nevill tried to block the blows with his right arm.  Nevill's watch was torn off his arm and many bruises left on his arm.  Eventually the killer was able to bash his skull in and in the process the stock broke.  The stock broke but not her nails?  Some people, who are delusional, say long nails like hers are super strong and would not chip while wielding the rifle in such manner but anyone who has seen a woman with long nails swinging a bat or similar object knows that upon striking something hard their nails end up chipped.

Moreover, someone who has used a shovel or similar object knows that it will cause blistering as the handle slides.  She had no blister like damage to her hands. The place where the stock broke is the narrow portion where the killer was holding it. The only way the killers hand would not receive any kind of damage during it breaking would be if the killer was wearing gloves which also would account for no blistering.  No gloves that she could have been wearing were found at the scene.

“...there are three classes of intellects: one which comprehends by itself; another which appreciates what others comprehend; and a third which neither comprehends by itself nor by the showing of others; the first is the most excellent, the second is good, the third is useless.”  Niccolò Machiavelli

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #218 on: December 17, 2015, 09:43:05 PM »
The killer bashed Nevill with the rifle more than a dozen times.  The killer did so by gripping the stock with one hand and gripping the butt around the narrow portion with the other hand and thrusting the butt into Nevill.  Nevill tried to block the blows with his right arm.  Nevill's watch was torn off his arm and many bruises left on his arm.  Eventually the killer was able to bash his skull in and in the process the stock broke.  The stock broke but not her nails?  Some people, who are delusional, say long nails like hers are super strong and would not chip while wielding the rifle in such manner but anyone who has seen a woman with long nails swinging a bat or similar object knows that upon striking something hard their nails end up chipped.

Moreover, someone who has used a shovel or similar object knows that it will cause blistering as the handle slides.  She had no blister like damage to her hands. The place where the stock broke is the narrow portion where the killer was holding it. The only way the killers hand would not receive any kind of damage during it breaking would be if the killer was wearing gloves which also would account for no blistering.  No gloves that she could have been wearing were found at the scene.
another brilliant observation and explanation by master Scipio usmc 8@??)( 8@??)(
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 09:52:25 PM by sherlock »

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #219 on: December 17, 2015, 11:16:49 PM »
just seen the clear photo of junes body for the first time.i must say she looks a terrorable mess.how one could do that to a person who bought you up with love and gave you all the best things in life .after your real parents had disowned you is incomprehensible.and all for what bits of paper.greed brings out the worst in everybody 8()(((@#

Offline scipio_usmc

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #220 on: December 18, 2015, 02:07:56 AM »
just seen the clear photo of junes body for the first time.i must say she looks a terrorable mess.how one could do that to a person who bought you up with love and gave you all the best things in life .after your real parents had disowned you is incomprehensible.and all for what bits of paper.greed brings out the worst in everybody 8()(((@#

Greed was likely the deciding factor and motive but he had issues with his parents. He felt they were controlling his life among other things. That made it easier to kill them.  Killing someone you love for money alone is hard to do.

I was brought up with a strong sense of morality and only believe in killing in self-defense/defense of others. On the opposite end there are people totally lacking in respect for life who will kill for a simple insult, to rob $5, for the sport of it just to see what it is like, to join a gang...  Most American murders are committed in inner cities by people who have no respect for life at all.  Jeremy might not have been as callous as these thugs but killing is horrible period.

I recently learned of a case where a woman poisoned her husbands and when police were getting close she poisoned her daughter and wrote a fake suicide letter for her so her daughter could be blamed for the murders.  Luckily she didn't die and computer analysis proved the letter was typed up while the daughter was in school. How could you do that to your own daughter?  Some people care only about themselves and will do anything for their own benefit.

Murder by Muslim extremists is particularly pointless.  Their end is simply to kill innocents for sport essentially until they can be stopped. That is more scary than people who kill for monetary gain. 
 
“...there are three classes of intellects: one which comprehends by itself; another which appreciates what others comprehend; and a third which neither comprehends by itself nor by the showing of others; the first is the most excellent, the second is good, the third is useless.”  Niccolò Machiavelli

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #221 on: December 18, 2015, 09:07:04 AM »
The killer bashed Nevill with the rifle more than a dozen times.  The killer did so by gripping the stock with one hand and gripping the butt around the narrow portion with the other hand and thrusting the butt into Nevill.  Nevill tried to block the blows with his right arm.  Nevill's watch was torn off his arm and many bruises left on his arm.  Eventually the killer was able to bash his skull in and in the process the stock broke.  The stock broke but not her nails?  Some people, who are delusional, say long nails like hers are super strong and would not chip while wielding the rifle in such manner but anyone who has seen a woman with long nails swinging a bat or similar object knows that upon striking something hard their nails end up chipped.

Moreover, someone who has used a shovel or similar object knows that it will cause blistering as the handle slides.  She had no blister like damage to her hands. The place where the stock broke is the narrow portion where the killer was holding it. The only way the killers hand would not receive any kind of damage during it breaking would be if the killer was wearing gloves which also would account for no blistering.  No gloves that she could have been wearing were found at the scene.

Scipio these are your views.  The pathologist Dr Vanezis makes no such claims.

Some people who are delusional regularly watch women with long painted nails swinging a bat.  They are called tennis players and some hit balls with a bat at speeds of circa 130 mph

http://www.eurweb.com/2013/08/venus-williams-debuts-purple-hair-in-us-open-win-pics/

Note Venus' long nails complete with polish and nail art.  And yes this was all whilst she was playing a competive game of tennis.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 09:11:40 AM by Holly Goodhead »
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #222 on: December 18, 2015, 12:53:06 PM »
Greed was likely the deciding factor and motive but he had issues with his parents. He felt they were controlling his life among other things. That made it easier to kill them.  Killing someone you love for money alone is hard to do.

I was brought up with a strong sense of morality and only believe in killing in self-defense/defense of others. On the opposite end there are people totally lacking in respect for life who will kill for a simple insult, to rob $5, for the sport of it just to see what it is like, to join a gang...  Most American murders are committed in inner cities by people who have no respect for life at all.  Jeremy might not have been as callous as these thugs but killing is horrible period.

I recently learned of a case where a woman poisoned her husbands and when police were getting close she poisoned her daughter and wrote a fake suicide letter for her so her daughter could be blamed for the murders.  Luckily she didn't die and computer analysis proved the letter was typed up while the daughter was in school. How could you do that to your own daughter?  Some people care only about themselves and will do anything for their own benefit.

Murder by Muslim extremists is particularly pointless.  Their end is simply to kill innocents for sport essentially until they can be stopped. That is more scary than people who kill for monetary gain. 
 
very true 8((()*/

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #223 on: December 18, 2015, 01:07:51 PM »
Scipio these are your views.  The pathologist Dr Vanezis makes no such claims.

Some people who are delusional regularly watch women with long painted nails swinging a bat.  They are called tennis players and some hit balls with a bat at speeds of circa 130 mph

http://www.eurweb.com/2013/08/venus-williams-debuts-purple-hair-in-us-open-win-pics/

Note Venus' long nails complete with polish and nail art.  And yes this was all whilst she was playing a competive game of tennis.
holly why would they break playing tennis.they have the ball in their palm throw it up and smash it with the racket.the ball goes nowhere near they nails unless its a direct hit in which case they will break or chip .in all the years ive watched tennis ive never seen a ball hit some ones hand.when they play a return shot one hand is well out the way the other has a two and half foot long and a foot wide racket in it.they would be very poor tennis players if they hit the ball with their hands.sheila was never in that violent struggle in the kitchen.iam positive a ball hit at 130 mph at a false nail would break or chip it
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 01:23:17 PM by sherlock »

Offline rotti

Re: My thoughts on the bamber murders by Sherlock
« Reply #224 on: December 18, 2015, 01:17:47 PM »
holly how do you see that mornings events.just a quick summing up.please &%+((£