Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?

[Admin]

As Goncalo has form when it comes to misrepresenting the truth in his celeb interviews (and elsewhere) do you really think he is the best source for this (or any) kind of information?

He was the coordinating detective and as such had access to substantially more information than is in the public domain.  Love him or loathe him, as a serving police officer Goncalo Amaral would not have been so stupid as to go on national TV and claim something without being absolutely sure of his facts as doing so could have undermined the prosecutions case.

[Admin]

what do you mean by apparently...is there any ..evidence....to support your claim

Do get out the original press interviews with the mother and have a read, I refuse to spoon feed you any more.

[Carana]

The blood that was cleaned on the wall and floor. Have you figured out who's it is yet? A murderer would get rid of the weapon and body. Do you think they purposely leave evidence for police to find? I personally think murderers try to cover up their crime by cleaning and getting rid of evidence. Can't think why I could think that - ok I'm lying 

I can find no mention of any forensic evidence from any competent forensic authorities in the SC ruling of an attempt to cover up a living-room massacre.

I'm aware that Amaral is a sensitiive topic, and I tend to avoid him, so apologies to anyone likely to burst a hernia, but I have yet to find even any of his supporters who have been able to lucidly demonstrate his grasp of forensics in the Madeleine case. (No one expects a coordinator to be a forensic scientist, but hopefully should be able to differentiate between relevant and irrelevant.)

I therefore have doubts that he could have been any more proficient in 2004.

[Carana]

He was the coordinating detective and as such had access to substantially more information than is in the public domain.  Love him or loathe him, as a serving police officer Goncalo Amaral would not have been so stupid as to go on national TV and claim something without being absolutely sure of his facts as doing so could have undermined the prosecutions case.

When was he on TV prior to a trial in which he was directly involved? Just curious...

[Admin]

Oh how the plot thickened.

Lawyer Aragão Correia, who defends Leonor Cipriano, Joana’s mother, told TSF this Tuesday that he lied to obtain a written confession from João Cipriano, who revealed that he tried to sell the child.

Aragão Correia had already requested the opening of a new inquiry after Leonor Cipriano confessed to him that she handed over her daughter to her brother, for him to sell her.

www.joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/05/leonor-ciprianos-lawyer-confesses-to.html#

[carlymichelle]

i personally  think that any putting  down of police   should be banned on this  forum police   do the jobs  most people are too gutless to do and imo i  dont  think  the PJ  especally     should be  slandered on a public forum i have  always    thought  this  way   my  brother is  an police officer and he has seen the most terrible  things   

[Admin]

When was he on TV prior to a trial in which he was directly involved? Just curious...

It was in January 2007, some time after the trial but before the appeal.

[Carana]

There was a young girl called Joana who went missing. Is anyone still looking for her?

The allegation is that she was fed to pigs. Even though that was was considered not proven (not even in the long list of bizarre "facts" based on "common experience"), it appears to have been accepted as fact in the lore of factoidism.

[Carana]

It was in January 2007, some time after the trial but before the appeal.

Really? Are you sure? That would have been while he was still a serving officer...

[Admin]

Really? Are you sure? That would have been while he was still a serving officer...

Didn't I just say that!!

[Admin]

The allegation is that she was fed to pigs. Even though that was was considered not proven (not even in the long list of bizarre "facts" based on "common experience"), it appears to have been accepted as fact in the lore of factoidism.

I agree, it is anyone's guess how she ended up

[carlymichelle]

Didn't I just say that!!

did you  see my post  admin?/ of course  have no say but yeah i  dont like    all the police bashing on these  forums  they havea  job  to do   and they do it and  get a hate  campain  for  doing  it   

[Admin]

did you  see my post  admin?/ of course  have no say but yeah i  dont like    all the police bashing on these  forums  they havea  job  to do   and they do it and  get a hate  campain  for  doing  it

Totally agree Carly.

[Carana]

Oh how the plot thickened.

Lawyer Aragão Correia, who defends Leonor Cipriano, Joana’s mother, told TSF this Tuesday that he lied to obtain a written confession from João Cipriano, who revealed that he tried to sell the child.

Aragão Correia had already requested the opening of a new inquiry after Leonor Cipriano confessed to him that she handed over her daughter to her brother, for him to sell her.

www.joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/05/leonor-ciprianos-lawyer-confesses-to.html#

What's new in that?

[Admin]

What's new in that?

Didn't John Cipriano write to his sister begging her forgiveness for implicating her in the murder?  And this was prior to her formal affidavit to the appeal court seeking to set the record straight.

I'm sorry but innocent and Cipriano should never be used in the same sentence.  As I stated yesterday, the only thing we don't know is who did what exactly?  Is she covering for him or is it the other way round or are they both as guilty as sin?

Whatever one decides they are both guilty of a conspiracy to defeat the ends of justice.