Author Topic: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?  (Read 334490 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #165 on: January 01, 2016, 10:00:29 PM »
Cipriano is a liar.

Proved in court, and from her varying testimony and changing accounts of events.

She deserves her sentence.

the pj lied...their obvious lies was their downfall

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #166 on: January 01, 2016, 10:02:19 PM »
the pj lied...their obvious lies was their downfall

The case revovledaround Cipriano.

She LIED.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #167 on: January 01, 2016, 10:03:09 PM »
The case revovledaround Cipriano.

She LIED.

the pj were found guilty of lying

Offline mercury

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #168 on: January 01, 2016, 10:03:09 PM »
in reply to you both...the evidence against the PJ was overwhelming.....their claim that cipriano fell down the stairs was an obvious lie...the evidence against cipriano was non existent

have you gone off tangent? The discussion was about whether she was assaulted by unknown people before or after her confession to a magistrate weeks before any trial, any progress in reading the boards before blubbering away ad infinitum?

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #169 on: January 01, 2016, 10:03:48 PM »
the pj were found guilty of lying

Based on the testimony of a liar..


Offline mercury

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #170 on: January 01, 2016, 10:05:49 PM »
the pj were found guilty of lying
No they were not
and you will explain how view  that excuses ciprianos numerous lies...check back later to see how that logic works LOL!!!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #171 on: January 01, 2016, 10:06:07 PM »
have you gone off tangent? The discussion was about whether she was assaulted by unknown people before or after her confession to a magistrate weeks before any trial, any progress in reading the boards before blubbering away ad infinitum?

I've read the boards...there is no independent verification of a first confession...this has been discussed at length previously and no verification has been forthcoming...I'm sure you would love top prove me wrong...so go ahead..you cannot

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #172 on: January 01, 2016, 10:07:14 PM »
No they were not
and you will explain how view  that excuses ciprianos numerous lies...check back later to see how that logic works LOL!!!!

the pj claimed cipriano fell down the stairs ...they were lying...the court decided they were lying

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #173 on: January 01, 2016, 10:09:02 PM »
No they were not
and you will explain how view  that excuses ciprianos numerous lies...check back later to see how that logic works LOL!!!!

the most important point is was the confession extracted under torture...it seems it was and is therefore totally invalid...no other evidence...not guilty

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #174 on: January 01, 2016, 10:55:21 PM »
Cipriano is a liar.

Proved in court, and from her varying testimony and changing accounts of events.

She deserves her sentence.

By that logic Stephen you must accept that amaral was guilty of covering up and also of libelling the mccanns.  Proved in court.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #175 on: January 01, 2016, 10:58:59 PM »
I have answered several of your questions on a forum where very few answer questions
Before I answer anymore let's see if angelo answers mine...
And I have one for you
What makes you think she is guilty
In the interest of fairness perhaps you could answer just this on e question for me
Then we can move on

She was found guilty by a court in a system which relies on "beyond reasonable doubt". The court acknowledged she had been tortured so any testimony obtained by those illegal means was presumably held inadmissible by the court.
There has been no appeal against the verdict or sentence which has been upheld by a higher court.
When there is a successful appeal against the verdict of the court I will may change my mind.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #176 on: January 02, 2016, 07:41:17 AM »
By that logic Stephen you must accept that amaral was guilty of covering up and also of libelling the mccanns.  Proved in court.

In Cipriano's case, it was murder.

In the mccanns case, CRIME UNKNOWN.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #177 on: January 02, 2016, 07:50:00 AM »
In Cipriano's case, it was murder.

In the mccanns case, CRIME UNKNOWN.

Amaral wrote a book and made a video accused the McCann of committing a crime.  You will have to explain to me why the "CRIME UNKNOWN" is at all relevant in the bringing of an action for libel? 


Offline carlymichelle

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #178 on: January 02, 2016, 08:02:27 AM »
Amaral wrote a book and made a video accused the McCann of committing a crime.  You will have to explain to me why the "CRIME UNKNOWN" is at all relevant in the bringing of an action for libel?

are  police officers  not allowed  a opinion even if is not  what parents or supporters     want to  hear?  they get paid     to have a opinion      and mcann supporters  and the mcanns themselves  liabel    GA  worse then anything  said against   the mcanns

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #179 on: January 02, 2016, 08:08:03 AM »

Can we start the day On Topic, Please.