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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #285 on: January 02, 2016, 05:12:21 PM »
Okay.  He was convicted of falsifying evidence.  And you can cut the insults as well.

Whom have I insulted?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #286 on: January 02, 2016, 05:14:59 PM »
According to Leonor yes but as her brother failed to find a body there was every possibility she was still alive somewhere.  The police were right to pressurise them if there was any hope at all of finding the child still alive or do you disagree Eleanor?

So you claim cipriano freely admitted to murder but took a savage beating and would not reveal where the body was. The  beating took place over 4 weeks after the disappearance and you think joanna had been hidden all this time...and you think this is a reasonable explanation

Offline Angelo222

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #287 on: January 02, 2016, 05:17:30 PM »
So no person who was ever tried and found Not Guilty is ever Innocent.

What a good job that The McCanns have never been tried.  And never will be.

But Leonor Cipriano will be released before much longer and stands to gain a large amount of Compensation because a Portuguese Court ruled that she was beaten by The PJ.

Leonor Cipriano was found guilty of murder and later found guilty of having committed perjury.  Mr Amaral was found guilty of falsifying police documents, he was not found guilty of perjury.

She won't receive a cent as she is a convicted murderer.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #288 on: January 02, 2016, 05:19:43 PM »
Leonor Cipriano was found guilty of murder and later found guilty of having committed perjury.  Mr Amaral was found guilty of falsifying police documents, he was not found guilty of perjury.

She won't receive a cent as she is a convicted murderer.

convicted murderers are entitled to compensation ...

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #289 on: January 02, 2016, 05:19:50 PM »
According to Leonor yes but as her brother failed to find a body there was every possibility she was still alive somewhere.  The police were right to pressurise them if there was any hope at all of finding the child still alive or do you disagree Eleanor?

So Leonor Cipriano was lying when she confessed to murdering her child?  What a surprise.

Yes, of course I disagree with Torture in any shape or form.  I'm just amazed by the fact that you don't.  And I am amazed by the fact that you can't see the massive holes in your argument. 

You said that Leonor confessed to murdering her child before she was beaten, and then The PJ tortured her just in case she was lying. 
Have I got that right?

Offline Angelo222

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #290 on: January 02, 2016, 05:20:19 PM »
So you claim cipriano freely admitted to murder but took a savage beating and would not reveal where the body was. The  beating took place over 4 weeks after the disappearance and you think joanna had been hidden all this time...and you think this is a reasonable explanation

Isn't she still hidden 12 years later?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #291 on: January 02, 2016, 05:20:40 PM »
Leonor Cipriano was found guilty of murder and later found guilty of having committed perjury.  Mr Amaral was found guilty of falsifying police documents, he was not found guilty of perjury.

She won't receive a cent as she is a convicted murderer.

falsifying police documents is a serious offence...hence the suspended sentence

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #292 on: January 02, 2016, 05:20:49 PM »
So no person who was ever tried and found Not Guilty is ever Innocent.

What a good job that The McCanns have never been tried.  And never will be.

But Leonor Cipriano will be released before much longer and stands to gain a large amount of Compensation because a Portuguese Court ruled that she was beaten by The PJ.

Some are and some are not.
Guilty and innocent are absolute terms. In court "beyond reasonable doubt" is the datum.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #293 on: January 02, 2016, 05:21:18 PM »
Whom have I insulted?

Innuendo, Sweetie.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #294 on: January 02, 2016, 05:21:38 PM »
convicted murderers are entitled to compensation ...

Cite please as per Portuguese Law?
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Offline Angelo222

De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #296 on: January 02, 2016, 05:22:35 PM »
Isn't she still hidden 12 years later?

you have claimed the police were trying to find  a live child...and you still have not provided  a cite for cipriano freely confessing

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #297 on: January 02, 2016, 05:22:43 PM »
convicted murderers are entitled to compensation ...

Too right they are.  Especially when beaten by The PJ.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #298 on: January 02, 2016, 05:22:52 PM »
So no person who was ever tried and found Not Guilty is ever Innocent.

What a good job that The McCanns have never been tried.  And never will be.

But Leonor Cipriano will be released before much longer and stands to gain a large amount of Compensation because a Portuguese Court ruled that she was beaten by The PJ.

It's Guilty or Not Guilty, tried suspects are never declared innocent.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #299 on: January 02, 2016, 05:23:16 PM »
falsifying police documents is a serious offence...hence the suspended sentence

Why you suppose the sentence was suspended if the offence were that serious?
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