Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?

[Benice]

no ...babes ...i don't use sticks ...just opinions OK.......

i think the sticks are used for G A poor man ....he lost everything ....all he was doing was his job ....that he should have been left to do..

IIRC he was removed for breaking the Secrecy Laws by slagging off the UK police to a reporter.  Which part of that flagrant abuse of his own country's laws qualifies him as  ''just doing his job'' IYO ?     

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[slartibartfast]

i don't know why yopu continue to post such conkers...we don't need to see all the court transcripts...although we have seen some. we know enough about Barry george to know the evidence against him and we know enough about the cipriano case to know there was no evidence against them.....

I think that is a classic example of belief over knowledge.

[stephen25000]

There seems to be a staggering denial that Cipriano lied.

Well, get used to it, and she paid the price with an extended sentence.

[faithlilly]

IIRC he was removed for breaking the Secrecy Laws by slagging off the UK police to a reporter.  Which part of that flagrant abuse of his own country's laws qualifies him as  ''just doing his job'' IYO ?     

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How many more times ? Amaral spoke to a journalist OFF THE RECORD ! What policeman has not spoken to a journalist OFF THE RECORD ? Other policemen are just lucky that their conversations stayed OFF THE RECORD. If every policeman who had spoken OFF THE RECORD to a journalist was to lose his job who would we have manning the streets ? I'm sure every police officer who has spoken to a journalist OFF THE RECORD has breathed a sigh of relief that it was not his OFF THE RECORD conversation that was printed all over the daily tabloids. How much longer must this poor man suffer for an OFF THE RECORD comment ?

 

[Alice Purjorick]

i don't know why yopu continue to post such conkers...we don't need to see all the court transcripts...although we have seen some. we know enough about Barry george to know the evidence against him and we know enough about the cipriano case to know there was no evidence against them.....

In which capacity are you responding:
A general purpose jack of all trades who knows nothing about everything or an expert who knows everything about nothing ?

[Mr Gray]

In which capacity are you responding:
A general purpose jack of all trades who knows nothing about everything or an expert who knows everything about nothing ?

neither...as an extremely educated ..intelligent person...who can read newspapers...search the net...translate portuguese articles... in what capacity are you questioning my reasoning

[Mr Gray]

Come off it. "We don't need to see the court transcripts", that makes it belief.

I have posted  you we have seen partial court transcripts...we have seen newspaper articles..that is an opinion based on evidence.

[Mr Gray]

Come off it. "We don't need to see the court transcripts", that makes it belief.

my post was.......we don't need to see all the court transcripts...although we have seen some.

that makes my opinion one based on evidence and your snipped quote dishonest

[Alice Purjorick]

neither...as an extremely educated ..intelligent person...who can read newspapers...search the net...translate portuguese articles... in what capacity are you questioning my reasoning

You have yet to show any reasoning.

[slartibartfast]

my post was.......we don't need to see all the court transcripts...although we have seen some.

that makes my opinion one based on evidence and your snipped quote dishonest

So how many make it evidence? Unless you have seen them all you are only working on partial knowledge that may lead you to wrong conclusion.

Apologies for missing the "all" not snipped, mis-transcribed.

[slartibartfast]

so is this an opinion based on belief or an opinion based on evidence....I have read ALL THE AVILABLE evidence...much of it from the morais site

So there is evidence which is unavailable?

[Mr Gray]

So there is evidence which is unavailable?

before we go any further..is my opinion based on belief or evidence

[Benice]

How many more times ? Amaral spoke to a journalist OFF THE RECORD ! What policeman has not spoken to a journalist OFF THE RECORD ? Other policemen are just lucky that their conversations stayed OFF THE RECORD. If every policeman who had spoken OFF THE RECORD to a journalist was to lose his job who would we have manning the streets ? I'm sure every police officer who has spoken to a journalist OFF THE RECORD has breathed a sigh of relief that it was not his OFF THE RECORD conversation that was printed all over the daily tabloids. How much longer must this poor man suffer for an OFF THE RECORD comment ?

 

LOL - I'm surprised at you Faith as Amaral himself gives breaking Judicial secrecy as the reason for his departure.    He knew he was for the high jump for whining to the Press - so it seems he disagreed with your attempt to water down the seriousness of what he had done.    He calls it a blunder.   In view of the vile campaign against the McCanns in the PT press using leaks from the PJ  -  I call it Karma.


 

[stephen25000]

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html 

More to come.

http://www.dn.pt/dossiers/sociedade/caso-joana/noticias/interior/tribunal-de-juri-absolve-inspectores-acusados-de-tortura-1241252.html


There are numerous other links to Cipriano's case.

However, one thing is very apparent.

She is a liar, not just once, but on repeated occasions.

....and pertinently, how much influence did Correia have on her, and the 'testimony' she gave ?

[Mr Gray]

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html 

More to come.

http://www.dn.pt/dossiers/sociedade/caso-joana/noticias/interior/tribunal-de-juri-absolve-inspectores-acusados-de-tortura-1241252.html

from your link...


According to the court, it was proved that Leonor Cipriano lied about the way in which the officers had beaten her,



so she didn't lie about the fact that she was beaten by the officers but did not give an accurate account of her beating