Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?

[Mr Gray]

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/04/leonor-cipriano-condemned-to-seven-more.html 

More to come.

http://www.dn.pt/dossiers/sociedade/caso-joana/noticias/interior/tribunal-de-juri-absolve-inspectores-acusados-de-tortura-1241252.html


There are numerous other links to Cipriano's case.

However, one thing is very apparent.

She is a liar, not just once, but on repeated occasions.

....and pertinently, how much influence did Correia have on her, and the 'testimony' she gave ?

and amaral is a proven liar...so were other policemen on the case...all  proven liars...with almeida a proven torturer

[stephen25000]

There is no doubt the Cipriano woman is an abject liar.

Any testimony she gave has to be examined in reference to the lies she told , and any effects it had on other people.

[ferryman]

There is no doubt the Cipriano woman is an abject liar.

Any testimony she gave has to be examined in reference to the lies she told , and any effects it had on other people.

After being terrified, bullied, intimidated and beaten to a point of near blindness, I'd have expected her to be a paragon of transparent honesty, clarity and truth ....

It's clear you would, too ....

[ferryman]

my reading of the situation is that leonora told the truth...she was not responsible for Joannas death...and where did the truth get her...a life sentence...she saw The PJ profit from telling lies...what an utter disgrace they were ...thta why in later years she would make up any story to be released from a sentence for a crime she did not commit

She may not have got every last detail right.  I suspect most of us wouldn't, beaten to a point of near blindness with a bag over our head, but to the best of her ability in terrifying circumstances, she was truthful as she could be ....

[stephen25000]

She may not have got every last detail right.  I suspect most of us wouldn't, beaten to a point of near blindness with a bag over our head, but to the best of her ability in terrifying circumstances, she was truthful as she could be ....

She kept changing her story and to.d several blatant lies.

Stop making excuses ferryman.

You are only defending her, merely because it suits your agenda.

[ferryman]

She kept changing her story and to.d several blatant lies.

Stop making excuses ferryman.

You are only defending her, merely because it suits your agenda.

I (actually) hope you are never in Leonor's position ....

[slartibartfast]

I (actually) hope you are never in Leonor's position ....

Tell the truth and you can't go wrong.

[stephen25000]

I (actually) hope you are never in Leonor's position ....

I would never have done what she or her brother did.

It seems clear you would never have given her a seconds thought but for Amaral.

[faithlilly]

LOL - I'm surprised at you Faith as Amaral himself gives breaking Judicial secrecy as the reason for his departure.    He knew he was for the high jump for whining to the Press - so it seems he disagreed with your attempt to water down the seriousness of what he had done.    He calls it a blunder.   In view of the vile campaign against the McCanns in the PT press using leaks from the PJ  -  I call it Karma.


 

Be honest Benice any police coordinator who suspected the McCanns would have had his reputation massacred by you supporters in the way Amaral has no matter how squeaky clean It's entirely unfortunate that he has given you so much ammunition.

[Alice Purjorick]

Allegedly there is a 200 page charge document in the Cipriano case.
Has anyone a translated copy of it?

[Carana]

Allegedly there is a 200 page charge document in the Cipriano case.
Has anyone a translated copy of it?

A 200 page charge document?

[Mr Gray]

Tell the truth and you can't go wrong.

i find it hard that anyone actually believes that simply by telling the truth you cannot go wrong....have you not heard of a miscarriage of justice...perhaps you haven't

[Benice]

Be honest Benice any police coordinator who suspected the McCanns would have had his reputation massacred by you supporters in the way Amaral has no matter how squeaky clean It's entirely unfortunate that he has given you so much ammunition.

What reputation would that be Faith ?  I'm truly amazed that you can't see that Amaral needs no help from me or anyone else to 'massacre his reputation' -  he did that all by himself.     No-one forced him to abuse his position as a policeman and lie to cover up the torture of a defenceless woman who was in his care at the time - that was all his own work.     Policemen are supposed to protect us from criminals not become criminals themselves. 

Corrupt cops like Amaral and his chums who abuse the power entrusted in them are the lowest of the low IMO.

 

[slartibartfast]

i find it hard that anyone actually believes that simply by telling the truth you cannot go wrong....have you not heard of a miscarriage of justice...perhaps you haven't

You can't get caught out if you tell the truth and you stand a much better chance of getting a miscarriages overturned.

[slartibartfast]

What reputation would that be Faith ?  I'm truly amazed that you can't see that Amaral needs no help from me or anyone else to 'massacre his reputation' -  he did that all by himself.     No-one forced him to abuse his position as a policeman and lie to cover up the torture of a defenceless woman who was in his care at the time - that was all his own work.     Policemen are supposed to protect us from criminals not become criminals themselves. 

Corrupt cops like Amaral and his chums who abuse the power entrusted in them are the lowest of the low IMO.

 

I think you missed the point. "Any coordinator" look at the F***** T****** comment.