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stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1500 on: January 20, 2016, 07:14:10 PM »
A few points.  Are you seriously suggesting that because torture is used in several other countries that somehow makes it ok? 

And you often whine about 'goading' posts.  Of which yours in a prime example.  It seems to be the case that you can 'dish it out' but cannot 'take it'.

I was going to say the same about you and some of your fellow supporters.


Again , I repeat, read what I have said on torture in the past.

Likewise nothing I or you say will stop it happening, will it.

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1501 on: January 20, 2016, 07:18:54 PM »
  Your question is beneath contempt and does not deserve or require an answer.

Well.as you and others keep bringing up the subject of the Cipriano's as it suits your purpose as regards the McCann's.

Expect difficult questions, as you and your fellows ask of the 'sceptics' on a regular basis.

Offline Brietta

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1502 on: January 20, 2016, 08:06:19 PM »
Well.as you and others keep bringing up the subject of the Cipriano's as it suits your purpose as regards the McCann's.

Expect difficult questions, as you and your fellows ask of the 'sceptics' on a regular basis.

Hmmmm ... ???
Wonder if posters have been mentioning Cipriano as a result of the wording of thread title.  Just a passing thought.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1503 on: January 20, 2016, 08:07:03 PM »
Well.as you and others keep bringing up the subject of the Cipriano's as it suits your purpose as regards the McCann's.

Expect difficult questions, as you and your fellows ask of the 'sceptics' on a regular basis.

this thread was started by slarti........you have asked no difficult questions...all you ask is easily answered

ferryman

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1504 on: January 20, 2016, 08:12:23 PM »
Hmmmm ... ???
Wonder if posters have been mentioning Cipriano as a result of the wording of thread title.  Just a passing thought.

Don't be silly ....


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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1505 on: January 20, 2016, 08:28:10 PM »
Hmmmm ... ???
Wonder if posters have been mentioning Cipriano as a result of the wording of thread title.  Just a passing thought.

Do you mean because the thread title contains the word Cipriano?
That would seem to be logical.
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stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1506 on: January 20, 2016, 08:31:54 PM »
Hmmmm ... ???
Wonder if posters have been mentioning Cipriano as a result of the wording of thread title.  Just a passing thought.


Cipriano.

The name used by the mccann supporters to claim a link to the mccann case, whereas of course there is nothing in common how the two girls disappeared, is there ?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1507 on: January 20, 2016, 08:32:54 PM »

Cipriano.

The name used by the mccann supporters to claim a link to the mccann case, whereas of course there is nothing in common how the two girls disappeared, is there ?
Better complain to Slarti who started the thread then.

Offline Brietta

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1508 on: January 20, 2016, 09:06:56 PM »

Cipriano.

The name used by the mccann supporters to claim a link to the mccann case, whereas of course there is nothing in common how the two girls disappeared, is there ?

I'm sure I can think of one or two similarities in Joana Cipriano's case and that of Madeleine McCann.

Both girls vanished without a trace.

The mothers of both girls fell under the suspicion of the investigation. 

A virulent media campaign was unleashed on both women.

Let us now continue to where the similarity begins to diverge.

One woman ~ a poor, uneducated Portuguese peasant ~ was subjected to inhumane physical ill treatment while in police custody.  The court recognised that she had been tortured.

The other woman ~ a middle class, well educated British subject ~ was subjected to inhumane mental ill treatment while being questioned as an arguida by the police.

One woman is serving out a long prison sentence with added time because she was unable to identify who had tortured her by the same court that ruled she had been tortured.

The other woman eventually had her arguida status lifted for the simple reason there was not a shred of evidence to support it ... or to support that her daughter was dead.

Back to Joana and Madeleine.

The court has convicted Joana's mother of her murder ... so no-one has been looking for Joana or is looking for her.

Madeleine's mother retained her freedom and the search for Madeleine in one form or another has never ceased, which for some reason or other seems to come between some people and their rest.

That we have a thread on this forum asking if Madeleine's parents would "have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?" shows, I think a recognition of just what a near run thing it could have been.

We do not know if there is anything in common between what happened to Joana and Madeleine ... for example if the same predator was responsible.
I would tend to think that may very well be because no-one bothered to look ... for very obvious reasons.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1509 on: January 20, 2016, 09:13:48 PM »

Cipriano.

The name used by the mccann supporters to claim a link to the mccann case, whereas of course there is nothing in common how the two girls disappeared, is there ?

But Stephen you forget smoke and mirrors. The supporters and parents cling to the notion that they the 'innocent parents' were going to be tortured.. oh hivvings sake... Keep up man  :)
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stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1510 on: January 20, 2016, 09:14:34 PM »
I'm sure I can think of one or two similarities in Joana Cipriano's case and that of Madeleine McCann.

Both girls vanished without a trace.

The mothers of both girls fell under the suspicion of the investigation. 

A virulent media campaign was unleashed on both women.

Let us now continue to where the similarity begins to diverge.

One woman ~ a poor, uneducated Portuguese peasant ~ was subjected to inhumane physical ill treatment while in police custody.  The court recognised that she had been tortured.

The other woman ~ a middle class, well educated British subject ~ was subjected to inhumane mental ill treatment while being questioned as an arguida by the police.

One woman is serving out a long prison sentence with added time because she was unable to identify who had tortured her by the same court that ruled she had been tortured.

The other woman eventually had her arguida status lifted for the simple reason there was not a shred of evidence to support it ... or to support that her daughter was dead.

Back to Joana and Madeleine.

The court has convicted Joana's mother of her murder ... so no-one has been looking for Joana or is looking for her.

Madeleine's mother retained her freedom and the search for Madeleine in one form or another has never ceased, which for some reason or other seems to come between some people and their rest.

That we have a thread on this forum asking if Madeleine's parents would "have been tortured too had they been Portuguese?" shows, I think a recognition of just what a near run thing it could have been.

We do not know if there is anything in common between what happened to Joana and Madeleine ... for example if the same predator was responsible.
I would tend to think that may very well be because no-one bothered to look ... for very obvious reasons.

I see you have been exercising your typing skills again.

Likewise, still clinging on to a 'predator'.

Well I suppose it makes a change from abduction.


However, the bottom line remains, there is no link between the two disappearances, and mere rhetoric on your part won't change that.

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1511 on: January 20, 2016, 09:15:31 PM »
But Stephen you forget smoke and mirrors. The supporters and parents cling to the notion that they the 'innocent parents' were going to be tortured.. oh hivvings sake... Keep up man  :)

Oh naughty me, I forgot that. 8(0(*

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1512 on: January 20, 2016, 09:25:50 PM »
But Stephen you forget smoke and mirrors. The supporters and parents cling to the notion that they the 'innocent parents' were going to be tortured.. oh hivvings sake... Keep up man  :)

they were tortured

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1513 on: January 20, 2016, 09:29:19 PM »
I see you have been exercising your typing skills again.

Likewise, still clinging on to a 'predator'.

Well I suppose it makes a change from abduction.


However, the bottom line remains, there is no link between the two disappearances, and mere rhetoric on your part won't change that.

the links...
amaral
death due to a relatively minor head injry
body stored in a fridge
parents claim abduction


Offline Brietta

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1514 on: January 20, 2016, 09:29:59 PM »
But Stephen you forget smoke and mirrors. The supporters and parents cling to the notion that they the 'innocent parents' were going to be tortured.. oh hivvings sake... Keep up man  :)

Admin started the thread asking the question on whether or not the Drs McCann could have been tortured had they been Portuguese ... so if you have smoke in your eyes better raise it there.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....