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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1785 on: January 23, 2016, 07:14:51 PM »
Who said there were?

then they are not guilty of neglect

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1786 on: January 23, 2016, 07:33:39 PM »
You will never accept the McCann's did wrong, will you ?

I will accept the McCanns were naive....and very...very...unlucky

Offline slartibartfast

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1788 on: January 23, 2016, 07:54:05 PM »
then they are not guilty of neglect

You seem to have short term memory problems.
I refer you to your post 1765.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1789 on: January 23, 2016, 07:58:21 PM »
You seem to have short term memory problems.
I refer you to your post 1765.

you are starting to sound like a couple of other posters on here ..... 1765 was your post
« Last Edit: January 23, 2016, 08:00:27 PM by davel »

Offline John

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1790 on: January 23, 2016, 08:50:32 PM »
then they are not guilty of neglect

The Attorney General made it clear that the absence of intent rendered their conduct unprosecutable in terms of criminal neglect under the Portuguese Penal Code.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1791 on: January 23, 2016, 11:09:55 PM »
you are starting to sound like a couple of other posters on here ..... 1765 was your post
Well dipseedo so it was but included your post 1758 which was the one in question, but erroneously numbered by me, where you posted:
the portuguese said no neglect
maybe you would like to reconsider "no neglect" in the light of what the archiving report said:
Which was:

"This shows that the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did, rather neglecting their duty to guard those same children, although not in a temerarious, or gross, manner."

Spare us the noun, verb, participial adjective, present participle blx as a means of diverting or ducking.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1792 on: January 23, 2016, 11:44:36 PM »
Well dipseedo so it was but included your post 1758 which was the one in question, but erroneously numbered by me, where you posted:
the portuguese said no neglect
maybe you would like to reconsider "no neglect" in the light of what the archiving report said:
Which was:

"This shows that the parents were not persistently worried about their children [and] that they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did, rather neglecting their duty to guard those same children, although not in a temerarious, or gross, manner."

Spare us the noun, verb, participial adjective, present participle blx as a means of diverting or ducking.

If I neglected to wear my seatbelt...would I too be guilty of neglect......

the mccanns were not guilty of neglect...in the eyes of the law...that is an inconvenient truth that you wish to avoid...but you cannot.......

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1793 on: January 24, 2016, 12:38:58 PM »
If I neglected to wear my seatbelt...would I too be guilty of neglect......

the mccanns were not guilty of neglect...in the eyes of the law...that is an inconvenient truth that you wish to avoid...but you cannot.......

You are the one who is perpetually rabbiting about how your scientific training taught you to be precise and so on to the extent that only you among posters know A from a bulls foot.
You don't seem to be making a very good fist of being precise in this instance. The McCanns could not be prosecuted under Portuguese law for deliberate Abandonment and Exposure to danger which was the option available [note the lack of the word neglect]. The Portuguese report clearly states they neglected their children.


 

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1794 on: January 24, 2016, 12:41:27 PM »
You are the one who is perpetually rabbiting about how your scientific training taught you to be precise and so on to the extent that only you among posters know A from a bulls foot.
You don't seem to be making a very good fist of being precise in this instance. The McCanns could not be prosecuted under Portuguese law for deliberate Abandonment and Exposure to danger which was the option available [note the lack of the word neglect]. The Portuguese report clearly states they neglected their children.
How is it possible to neglect children but not in a reckless manner, as described in the report?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1795 on: January 24, 2016, 12:48:08 PM »
You are the one who is perpetually rabbiting about how your scientific training taught you to be precise and so on to the extent that only you among posters know A from a bulls foot.
You don't seem to be making a very good fist of being precise in this instance. The McCanns could not be prosecuted under Portuguese law for deliberate Abandonment and Exposure to danger which was the option available [note the lack of the word neglect]. The Portuguese report clearly states they neglected their children.

so you are implying there is no law in Portugal of child neglect

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1796 on: January 24, 2016, 01:35:40 PM »
so you are implying there is no law in Portugal of child neglect

Doesn't look like it...

Similarly, there doesn't appear to be any mention of the word torture in the Cipriano. Judgement.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1797 on: January 24, 2016, 01:44:01 PM »
Doesn't look like it...

Similarly, there doesn't appear to be any mention of the word torture in the Cipriano. Judgement.

Cipriano was tortured in the very sense of the word .....as confirmed on the amnesty site..

great to see child neglect and police torture do not exist in portugal
« Last Edit: January 24, 2016, 01:46:37 PM by davel »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1798 on: January 24, 2016, 01:52:20 PM »
You are the one who is perpetually rabbiting about how your scientific training taught you to be precise and so on to the extent that only you among posters know A from a bulls foot.
You don't seem to be making a very good fist of being precise in this instance. The McCanns could not be prosecuted under Portuguese law for deliberate Abandonment and Exposure to danger which was the option available [note the lack of the word neglect]. The Portuguese report clearly states they neglected their children.

ad hom attack..reported

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1799 on: January 24, 2016, 01:52:52 PM »
Cipriano was tortured in the very sense of the word .....as confirmed on the amnesty site..

great to see child neglect and police torture do not exist in portugal

It appears that the Portuguese are more accurate in their laws and rather than use broad brush words use more detailed descriptions to reduce the amount of wriggle room available to lawyers.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.