Author Topic: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?  (Read 335056 times)

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Offline Carana

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1815 on: January 24, 2016, 03:03:32 PM »
Even if the McCanns had been charged and incarcerated for whatever charge corresponding to the fact that they weren't physically present when Madeleine disappeared...

How would the case as to her disappearance have advanced from there? How could the parents have done so from jail, particularly in view of the fact that the media tabloids would have have massive headlines stating that the parents of missing child were jailed?

Which PT tabloid remained objective over the Cipriano case once the Faro team took over on 21 Sept 2004 over a child who had vanished on the evening of 12 Sept?

ferryman

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1816 on: January 24, 2016, 03:11:56 PM »
The red bit about covers it.
caution = care taken to avoid danger or mistakes.

Are we discussing social mores?

Or legal principles?

What crimes were the McCanns guilty of?
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ferryman

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1817 on: January 24, 2016, 03:15:32 PM »
In ferryman world leaving children unprotected  for hours on end whilst wining and dining, is normal.

In the real world it's NEGLECT.

Hours on end is Stephen25000 hyperbole.

If literally true, the McCanns would now no doubt be languishing in a Portuguese jail and (arguably) derservedly so ....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1818 on: January 24, 2016, 03:33:31 PM »
Are we discussing social mores?

Or legal principles?

What crimes were the McCanns guilty of?

The discussion was whether the Portuguese said "neglect". As in davels assertion in post 1758: "the word stephen used was neglect....the Portuguese said no neglect" He further said it was in the archiving report that the Portuguese had not said neglect. However the archiving report it says.... well it's all posted above where they use the word "neglecting" as well as others. It was nowt to do with whether or not a prosecution ensued.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1819 on: January 24, 2016, 03:52:05 PM »
The discussion was whether the Portuguese said "neglect". As in davels assertion in post 1758: "the word stephen used was neglect....the Portuguese said no neglect" He further said it was in the archiving report that the Portuguese had not said neglect. However the archiving report it says.... well it's all posted above where they use the word "neglecting" as well as others. It was nowt to do with whether or not a prosecution ensued.

the Portuguese did say no neglect...the archiving report said no neglect...of a criminal nature......thwere were several things amaral neglected to do...so is he guilty of neglect too


Offline Carana

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1820 on: January 24, 2016, 04:01:34 PM »
No takers regarding my previous post on the Cipriano case?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1821 on: January 24, 2016, 04:10:19 PM »
I think it was debatable, so therefor ignored.  Any similar post by you will be treated in the same fashion by me, and ignored as well.  This is often the case with Reported Posts, in so far as I am involved.

Ditto
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ferryman

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1822 on: January 24, 2016, 05:02:13 PM »
Even if the McCanns had been charged and incarcerated for whatever charge corresponding to the fact that they weren't physically present when Madeleine disappeared...

How would the case as to her disappearance have advanced from there? How could the parents have done so from jail, particularly in view of the fact that the media tabloids would have have massive headlines stating that the parents of missing child were jailed?

Which PT tabloid remained objective over the Cipriano case once the Faro team took over on 21 Sept 2004 over a child who had vanished on the evening of 12 Sept?

I suspect the answer is none. 

But it would take someone impartial, fluent in Portuguese and with access to the relevant material to provide the definitive answer ....

stephen25000

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1823 on: January 24, 2016, 05:17:38 PM »
Hours on end is Stephen25000 hyperbole.

If literally true, the McCanns would now no doubt be languishing in a Portuguese jail and (arguably) derservedly so ....

You seem to forget Madeleine disappeared when the mccanns b....red off to wine and dine.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1824 on: January 24, 2016, 05:23:12 PM »
You seem to forget Madeleine disappeared when the mccanns b....red off to wine and dine.

That's enough, Stephen.  Thank You.

ferryman

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1825 on: January 24, 2016, 05:23:54 PM »
You seem to forget Madeleine disappeared when the mccanns b....red off to wine and dine.

At least we've left behind 'cadaver scent' and other red-herrings.

Progress.

Of sorts.

I suppose ....

Offline Carana

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1826 on: January 24, 2016, 05:28:15 PM »
I suspect the answer is none. 

But it would take someone impartial, fluent in Portuguese and with access to the relevant material to provide the definitive answer ....


Not only, answering that would require expert advice on how one is supposed to maintain a high-level campaign for your missing child  from inside a PT jail.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1827 on: January 24, 2016, 05:56:50 PM »
You seem to forget Madeleine disappeared when the mccanns b....red off to wine and dine.

I thought libellous posts were not allowed...have I missed something...reported
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ferryman

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Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1828 on: January 24, 2016, 06:10:36 PM »
I thought libellous posts were not allowed...have I missed something

The post you are replying to probably (just about) passes muster as non-libellous.

It's true they left the children.

It's true they were eating when she disappeared ....

The post is just unpleasant, goading, (almost) gloating.

Is that within forum rules?

I've no idea ...

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why is there so much support for Leonor Cipriano from McCann supporters?
« Reply #1829 on: January 24, 2016, 06:12:01 PM »
The post you are replying to probably (just about) passes muster as non-libellous.

It's true they left the children.

It's true they were eating when she disappeared ....

The post is just unpleasant, goading, (almost) gloating.

Is that within forum rules?

I've no idea ...


they did not b....r off...the post is libellous