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Offline Admin

A lot has been written over the years concerning the possibility that Madeleine and her twin siblings had been sedated by an intruder.  Indeed, both Kate McCann and Goncalo Amaral make reference to such a possibility in their respective books.

My question is this, did the Polícia Judiciária in Portugal make a gross error in judgement in not testing the twins for signs of sedation at an early stage in the investigation?

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Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2016, 06:13:08 PM »
The PJ's biggest mistake was not testing them straight away before Mad Buck arrived on the scene. The McCanns for not demanding it to be done is most suspicious. They knew their daughter had been abducted and their twins didn't wake up (the mother checking they were breathing!) and they did nothing about it. Any good detective would be keeping a close eye on them!


Kate said she did ask the police to check the twins.   The fact that they slept through everything was also passed on to the police,   why didn't they test them?

Kate and Gerry had the twins tested for drugs back in the UK they were clear.
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stephen25000

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2016, 06:16:02 PM »
Kate said she did ask the police to check the twins.   The fact that they slept through everything was also passed on to the police,   why didn't they test them?

Kate and Gerry had the twins tested for drugs back in the UK they were clear.

Meaningless test.

Too late, and not independently carried out.
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Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2016, 06:45:22 PM »
Meaningless test.

Too late, and not independently carried out.


"With the appropriate, fully-accredited experts, hair samples were taken from Sean, Amelie and Kate and the conclusion was no evidence of sedatives or drugs were found.

stephen25000

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2016, 06:49:49 PM »

"With the appropriate, fully-accredited experts, hair samples were taken from Sean, Amelie and Kate and the conclusion was no evidence of sedatives or drugs were found.

Too late.

Irrelevant.

They should have been taken at the time.

Neither the PJ or the McCann's have any excuse for not requesting the testing.

ferryman

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2016, 06:54:57 PM »
Too late.

Irrelevant.

They should have been taken at the time.

Neither the PJ or the McCann's have any excuse for not requesting the testing.

At what point, exactly, were the McCanns first accused of drugging the twins?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2016, 06:57:02 PM »
At what point, exactly, were the McCanns first accused of drugging the twins?

Who by?
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Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2016, 06:58:12 PM »
Too late.

Irrelevant.

They should have been taken at the time.

Neither the PJ or the McCann's have any excuse for not requesting the testing.


Edward Smethurst, the lawyer coordinating the McCanns' defence, said: "Hair grows by about a centimetre a month so if you have eight centimetres of hair, you can test for drugs going back eight months.


Read what is said Stephen,  if you have eight centimetres of hair you can test for drugs going back eight months.

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ferryman

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2016, 07:01:17 PM »
Who by?

Wasn't it the Almeida interim report where the suggestion was first made that the McCanns might have drugged the twins?

stephen25000

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2016, 07:04:38 PM »

Edward Smethurst, the lawyer coordinating the McCanns' defence, said: "Hair grows by about a centimetre a month so if you have eight centimetres of hair, you can test for drugs going back eight months.


Read what is said Stephen,  if you have eight centimetres of hair you can test for drugs going back eight months.


You should do some research Lace.

Anaesthetics normally can be detected for up to 90 days and the length of time will depend on a variety of factors including the metabolism of the person involved.

Also how long were the hair samples taken,  and what was the length of these two children's hair at the time ?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2016, 07:09:29 PM »
https://www.health-street.net/blog-drug-testing/hair-drug-testing-facts-and-myths/

"There is only one standard for this test – 1.5 inches of hair, cut from the root. The non-root end is discarded".

Loads more guff for the pro Googlers to go at and become instant experts  ?{)(**
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Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2016, 07:12:48 PM »
https://www.health-street.net/blog-drug-testing/hair-drug-testing-facts-and-myths/

"There is only one standard for this test – 1.5 inches of hair, cut from the root. The non-root end is discarded".

Loads more guff for the pro Googlers to go at and become instant experts  ?{)(**

1.5 inches for 90 days,   if you have longer hair the time goes up.

The Police were able to establish that Shannon Mathews had been drugged for years by testing her hair.
He said drugs were detected in all 20cm of her hair indicating "it was ingested over an extended period dating back 20 months."
   
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Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2016, 07:18:54 PM »
https://www.health-street.net/blog-drug-testing/hair-drug-testing-facts-and-myths/

"There is only one standard for this test – 1.5 inches of hair, cut from the root. The non-root end is discarded".

Loads more guff for the pro Googlers to go at and become instant experts  ?{)(**

By the way I didn't become an instant expert on the matter as some seem to think they are,   I just read the facts.

stephen25000

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2016, 07:27:09 PM »
By the way I didn't become an instant expert on the matter as some seem to think they are,   I just read the facts.

So Lace, how long was the twins hair in May 3 rd 2007 ?

Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2016, 07:35:04 PM »
So Lace, how long was the twins hair in May 3 rd 2007 ?

How long was the twins hair in September you mean,  that's when the McCann's had them tested,  they would only need four centimetres to test for four months.

They wouldn't have had it done if there was no point in it.