Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?

[misty]

Some of your points stress the fact that they were doctors and knew what they were dealing with. Others have them as worried parents who didn't know what to do.

Either way it was up to them to act if they were 'very concerned', whichever hat they were wearing that night.

As far as the twins were concerned, they could deal with any potential medical concerns as doctors. The twins were still there.
As far as Madeleine was concerned, they'd been forced to place the matter in the hands of a foreign police force with whom there were very difficult communication issues, amongst other things. Frantic parents.
The parents did eventually have the twins tested. Do the results appear in the PJ files?

[stephen25000]

As far as the twins were concerned, they could deal with any potential medical concerns as doctors. The twins were still there.
As far as Madeleine was concerned, they'd been forced to place the matter in the hands of a foreign police force with whom there were very difficult communication issues, amongst other things. Frantic parents.
The parents did eventually have the twins tested. Do the results appear in the PJ files?

The mccanns 'tests' were carried out too late after the events.

[misty]

The mccanns 'tests' were carried out too late after the events.

Were they?

[ferryman]

As far as the twins were concerned, they could deal with any potential medical concerns as doctors. The twins were still there.
As far as Madeleine was concerned, they'd been forced to place the matter in the hands of a foreign police force with whom there were very difficult communication issues, amongst other things. Frantic parents.
The parents did eventually have the twins tested. Do the results appear in the PJ files?

There were two distinct, and separate, concerns.

There was the medical concern: had the twins been harmed by drugs?

And there was the criminal concern: had the crime been commissioned with the aid of drugs?

The criminal concern lingered long after the medical concern had been allayed.

For some unfathomable reason, some people can't seem to grasp that ...

[ferryman]

The mccanns 'tests' were carried out too late after the events.

The McCanns only became concerned (with defending their reputations against scurrilous accusations of drugging the children) after the scurrilous accusations were levelled (on the back of misunderstood and misquoted words of Madeleine's grandfather, Mr Healey) ....

[misty]

There were two distinct, and separate, concerns.

There was the medical concern: had the twins been harmed by drugs?

And there was the criminal concern: had the crime been commissioned with the aid of drugs?

The criminal concern lingered long after the medical concern had been allayed.

For some unfathomable reason, some people can't seem to grasp that ...

Thank you, Ferryman. Very well explained.

[stephen25000]

There were two distinct, and separate, concerns.

There was the medical concern: had the twins been harmed by drugs?

And there was the criminal concern: had the crime been commissioned with the aid of drugs?

The criminal concern lingered long after the medical concern had been allayed.

For some unfathomable reason, some people can't seem to grasp that ...

Who allayed the 'medical concerns' ?

[G-Unit]

Who allayed the 'medical concerns' ?

That's the point I've been labouring for what seems like days. The parents were 'very concerned', or if misty prefers it, the doctors were 'very concerned'. Despite their concern they did.......nothing. The PJ are being accused of doing nothing, but they weren't the concerned ones as far as I can tell, so why would they have done anything?

[stephen25000]

That's the point I've been labouring for what seems like days. The parents were 'very concerned', or if misty prefers it, the doctors were 'very concerned'. Despite their concern they did.......nothing. The PJ are being accused of doing nothing, but they weren't the concerned ones as far as I can tell, so why would they have done anything?

You'be nailed it to the perch G-Unit.

[misty]

That's the point I've been labouring for what seems like days. The parents were 'very concerned', or if misty prefers it, the doctors were 'very concerned'. Despite their concern they did.......nothing. The PJ are being accused of doing nothing, but they weren't the concerned ones as far as I can tell, so why would they have done anything?

So, despite the contents of the archiving report, the PJ failed to investigate a scenario that the 3 children could have been drugged to facilitate an abduction.
Brilliant. Like looking for a freezer which no longer exists.

[faithlilly]

At the time Madeleine went missing, Kate & Gerry were parents first & foremost, not doctors. I realise, from your own admission you can't empathise with them, that you fail to understand the magnitude of the dilemmas they faced during those long overnight hours. One parent at the hospital & one parent left at the scene would have merely compounded their stress but they were surrounded by trained medical professionals in one form or another. The 24hr LuzDoc was also nearby should assistance be required.

So they were parents first and foremost but doctors when it came to gauging how much danger the twins were in. How does that work misty ?

[misty]

So they were parents first and foremost but doctors when it came to gauging how much danger the twins were in. How does that work misty ?

It's like an emotional separation from a situation, Faithlilly. I believe doctors have to be able to do that or they'd be unable to last in the profession.

[faithlilly]

It's like an emotional separation from a situation, Faithlilly. I believe doctors have to be able to do that or they'd be unable to last in the profession.

So they would have been able to judge how dangerous the twins unresponsive state may have been, right ?

[Eleanor]

This thread is so boring as to be beyond the bounds of reason.

The McCanns were totally traumatised and utterly unable to react normally, beyond taking some sort of care of the twins.  And please don't tell me that they didn't care.

[G-Unit]

It's like an emotional separation from a situation, Faithlilly. I believe doctors have to be able to do that or they'd be unable to last in the profession.

I don't know how many times I've read posts saying that they were unable to think calmly because they were so traumatised, devastated, worried, frantic etc etc. It has been used as an excuse for their behaviour time after time.

You can't have your cake and eat it, they were either traumatised and non-functioning or able to separate themselves and react sensibly. Either way, they were 'very concerned' about the twins and still....did nothing.