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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #675 on: January 17, 2016, 07:48:58 AM »
Quote from: Brietta on January 17, 2016, 12:57:25 AM
Cite.

"I have never seen..." Is not citable.
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Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #676 on: January 17, 2016, 08:31:41 AM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on January 16, 2016, 11:57:09 PM
The most outrageous things in this case is clearly the parents own actions of leaving their very young children in an unsecured apartment and tampering of the crime scene before the police arrived. Never mind not calling the police asap knowing she was abducted but deleting history logs instead within a 24 hour period of the police examining their phones. Instead of clearing up these abnormal behaviours by later answering all questions they hide behind their lawyers and leave Portugal.

This is a disgrace - the only question answered by the mother - bet her lawyer didn't tell her to answer this one.

Q.  Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardising the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?

A.  'Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.'

Advised by her lawyer to remain silent,   they were trying to twist things,   Kate knew this and if they had arrested her and Gerry,   who would be out there leading the search for Madeleine?   No one!!   They would pack the case up and that would be that.    Kate did the right thing IMO the right thing to keep Madeleine in the public eye and keep the search on going.

What was it Murat said when they were questioning him?   'He didn't want to hear the truth,   he said I didn't get you today but I'll get you tomorrow'.

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Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #677 on: January 17, 2016, 08:35:09 AM »
Quote from: Carana on January 16, 2016, 11:54:23 PM
That has to be a classic example of Chinese whispers...

It's outrageous that the McCann's and friends were told to keep silent with the threat of imprisonment,  yet all those leaks drifted through.

Corrected,  no Leeks were guilty
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Offline jassi

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #678 on: January 17, 2016, 08:44:50 AM »
Quote from: Lace on January 17, 2016, 08:35:09 AM
It's outrageous that the McCann's and friends were told to keep silent with the threat of imprisonment,  yet all those leeks drifted through.


Never put your trust in a vegetable.
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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #679 on: January 17, 2016, 08:47:23 AM »
Quote from: jassi on January 17, 2016, 08:44:50 AM

Never put your trust in a vegetable.

That's shallot. %£5&%
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #680 on: January 17, 2016, 09:27:33 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 17, 2016, 12:41:25 AM
Everyone has a legal right to remain silent. I have never seen an innocent individual use it.

Colin Stagg certainly did and I'm sure there must be others.
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Offline Lace

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #681 on: January 17, 2016, 11:30:59 AM »
Quote from: jassi on January 17, 2016, 08:44:50 AM

Never put your trust in a vegetable.

Oops!!    8)--))  will correct it.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #682 on: January 17, 2016, 11:32:58 AM »
Quote from: Lace on January 17, 2016, 08:31:41 AM
Advised by her lawyer to remain silent,   they were trying to twist things,   Kate knew this and if they had arrested her and Gerry,   who would be out there leading the search for Madeleine?   No one!!   They would pack the case up and that would be that.    Kate did the right thing IMO the right thing to keep Madeleine in the public eye and keep the search on going.

What was it Murat said when they were questioning him?   'He didn't want to hear the truth,   he said I didn't get you today but I'll get you tomorrow'.

I sometimes wonder that if she had believed that the files were going to be published whether she would have answered those questions.

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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #683 on: January 17, 2016, 11:40:58 AM »
Quote from: Lace on January 17, 2016, 08:35:09 AM
It's outrageous that the McCann's and friends were told to keep silent with the threat of imprisonment,  yet all those leaks drifted through.

Corrected,  no Leeks were guilty

Did 'Team McCann leak or not? The parents and friends didn't say much publicly but the initial media storm was caused by them and their friends and relatives.

4th May

Fears grow that Madeleine has been taken against her will and her parents accuse the Portuguese police of not doing enough to find her.

5th May

 Madeleine's aunt Philomena McCann criticises the Portuguese police, claiming they had played down her disappearance and were being "uncommunicative".
http://www.mccannfiles.com/
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #684 on: January 17, 2016, 11:47:07 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on January 17, 2016, 11:40:58 AM
Did 'Team McCann leak or not? The parents and friends didn't say much publicly but the initial media storm was caused by them and their friends and relatives.

4th May

Fears grow that Madeleine has been taken against her will and her parents accuse the Portuguese police of not doing enough to find her.

5th May

 Madeleine's aunt Philomena McCann criticises the Portuguese police, claiming they had played down her disappearance and were being "uncommunicative".
http://www.mccannfiles.com/

And so it began !
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #685 on: January 17, 2016, 01:52:43 PM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on January 17, 2016, 07:48:58 AM
"I have never seen..." Is not citable.

Sorry?  is that another new rule???

An assertion has been made.  If it is impossible to substantiate it should not be displayed on the board in the form it is in.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #686 on: January 17, 2016, 02:22:12 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on January 17, 2016, 01:52:43 PM
Sorry?  is that another new rule???

An assertion has been made.  If it is impossible to substantiate it should not be displayed on the board in the form it is in.

No, just common sense. If A poster says they have never seen something it should be taken as a fact unless you are calling the poster a liar. However, never having seen something does not mean it couldn't have happened.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #687 on: January 17, 2016, 02:27:53 PM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on January 17, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
No, just common sense. If A poster says they have never seen something it should be taken as a fact unless you are calling the poster a liar. However, never having seen something does not mean it couldn't have happened.

You right Slarti. I'm sure it does occasionally happen but I have been interested in miscarriages of justice since a teenager and I have yet to see one innocent person not willing to answer the police questions put to them.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

ferryman

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #688 on: January 17, 2016, 03:05:22 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on January 17, 2016, 02:27:53 PM
You right Slarti. I'm sure it does occasionally happen but I have been interested in miscarriages of justice since a teenager and I have yet to see one innocent person not willing to answer the police questions put to them.

You've seen at least one; Kate and Gerry McCann ...
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #689 on: January 17, 2016, 03:13:10 PM »
Quote from: ferryman on January 17, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
You've seen at least one; Kate and Gerry McCann ...

In your opinion, of course.
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