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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #930 on: January 20, 2016, 09:46:54 PM »
I think we could all ascertain if a child was still breathing. I wonder what her plan was if they stopped? Do doctors routinely wait until breathing stops before taking any action? Even though they are 'very concerned'?
You tell me.  What would the paramedics have done?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #931 on: January 20, 2016, 09:47:31 PM »
Super doctor! How regularly did she check then? Every five minutes, ten minutes, 15 minutes?  You have no idea.

neither do you...certainly having checked  and found respiration to be at the normal rate, depth, regularity...with no abnormal vibrations she would know that the twins were in no danger

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #932 on: January 20, 2016, 09:49:32 PM »
The danger of over sedation is repiratory depression....kate would be able to tell straight away that the twins respiration was normal

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #933 on: January 20, 2016, 09:53:48 PM »
breathing doesn't suddenly stop...Kate could tell from her hand  that the breathing was normal

Yes, but what was it that made her check? We have heard how it is normal for children who wake up crying in a quiet room, to sleep right through a very noisy apartment. Did she not check when she noticed Maddie gone?

I just wonder if kate was thinking the twins were drugged..and why would she think that.
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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #934 on: January 20, 2016, 09:57:20 PM »
Yes, but what was it that made her check? We have heard how it is normal for children who wake up crying in a quiet room, to sleep right through a very noisy apartment. Did she not check when she noticed Maddie gone?

I just wonder if kate was thinking the twins were drugged..and why would she think that.

as a parent i would say there was a million things racing through kates mind at that time...rational thinking would not be one of them. I have taken children this age on holiday to similar resorts...they wear themselves out and can fall into a deep sleep...

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #935 on: January 20, 2016, 10:02:57 PM »
as a parent i would say there was a million things racing through kates mind at that time...rational thinking would not be one of them. I have taken children this age on holiday to similar resorts...they wear themselves out and can fall into a deep sleep...

Trained Doctors, who were so confident to leave their childen alone, become irrrational? Hmm no Sorry Davel, I can't believe that, unless everything Kate did and said was irrational  that night, including the claiming adbucton from window... whoooshing and all that?

Interesting, the police were told a child was missing and not abducted....just saying.
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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #936 on: January 20, 2016, 10:19:16 PM »
Yes, but what was it that made her check? We have heard how it is normal for children who wake up crying in a quiet room, to sleep right through a very noisy apartment. Did she not check when she noticed Maddie gone?

I just wonder if kate was thinking the twins were drugged..and why would she think that.

She must have thought it was unusual or she wouldn't have kept checking them. She says she and Gerry were 'very concerned' about them sleeping so deeply.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #937 on: January 20, 2016, 10:21:18 PM »
Trained Doctors, who were so confident to leave their childen alone, become irrrational? Hmm no Sorry Davel, I can't believe that, unless everything Kate did and said was irrational  that night, including the claiming adbucton from window... whoooshing and all that?

Interesting, the police were told a child was missing and not abducted....just saying.

the trained doctors collapsed on the floor crying their eyes out.....I'm convinced kate told the truth about the window...for me everything fits...

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #938 on: January 20, 2016, 10:23:24 PM »
She must have thought it was unusual or she wouldn't have kept checking them. She says she and Gerry were 'very concerned' about them sleeping so deeply.


that's all they were doing...sleeping deeply...sedation simply wears off...it isn't like a general anaesthetic which can result in death..

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #939 on: January 20, 2016, 10:26:42 PM »
She must have thought it was unusual or she wouldn't have kept checking them. She says she and Gerry were 'very concerned' about them sleeping so deeply.
That's why she raised her concerns with the police, who promptly ignored her concerns.  Now tell me that we only have Kate's word for it that she told the police, but kindly also tell me how sensible you think it would be to go on record as saying you told the police something if you didn't.  The police would use that as evidence that you were a bare-faced liar wouldn't they?  Amaral could have had a field day with it, but didn't as far as I can  recall.  I wonder why not?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #940 on: January 20, 2016, 10:28:56 PM »
the trained doctors collapsed on the floor crying their eyes out.....I'm convinced kate told the truth about the window...for me everything fits...

+/- 25mm, shim it, give it a damn good belt with club hammer then tack it.
Then it fits.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #941 on: January 20, 2016, 10:31:25 PM »
+/- 25mm, shim it, give it a damn good belt with club hammer then tack it.
Then it fits.

in my line of work we don't do that...the fit has to be totally passive .. ....otherwise it goes in the bin...work that one out Mr Engineer


the McCanns account is a totally passive fit
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #942 on: January 20, 2016, 10:32:18 PM »
+/- 25mm, shim it, give it a damn good belt with club hammer then tack it.
Then it fits.
How much DIY would you need to carry out to make the parental involvement and  cover up fit?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #943 on: January 20, 2016, 11:11:24 PM »
in my line of work we don't do that...the fit has to be totally passive .. ....otherwise it goes in the bin...work that one out Mr Engineer


the McCanns account is a totally passive fit

Keep guessing.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?
« Reply #944 on: January 20, 2016, 11:22:30 PM »
Keep guessing.

I'm not guessing...military links to British Army Germany..........just look at the evidence...