Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?

[pathfinder73]

If you've read the statements then you would know that Gerry said in his statement to the police that he went outside to see if he could raise the shutters and he could.

Whether anyone said anything about Gerry going outside is neither here nor there,  everyone was running around doing different things and no one knowing what to do next.

Witnesses saw Gerry going in and coming out the same way but nobody saw him go outside the front and raise shutters and David was with him? Dianne tried to raise shutters. Why would Kate ask her to try if Gerry had already done it? See that red flag yet! David didn't say it did he? Like Jez and Jane saying he was on the apartment side of the road and he claimed he was on the other side? Is he reliable?

[Alice Purjorick]

It starts getting worrying when you start to guess what the next post will say...

Don't it just.
Mind you my sense of the ridiculous has had me "over the horizon" with two "abductors" and a trolley of gear containing but not limited to:
a K size cylinder of air [I exaggerate they would probably use a PT10]
a container of chloroform
a small ambient vaporiser
a gas mixing panel
flexibles as required and a mask
I wonder how they got the trolley through the window?

[stephen25000]

Don't it just.
Mind you my sense of the ridiculous has had me "over the horizon" with two "abductors" and a trolley of gear containing but not limited to:
a K size cylinder of air [I exaggerate they would probably use a PT10]
a container of chloroform
a small ambient vaporiser
a gas mixing panel
flexibles as required and a mask
I wonder how they got the trolley through the window?

.............and don't forget the cloaking device.

[G-Unit]

The McCann's did leave the children as you say,  they also deeply regret doing it don't they?    You sound as though you believe the McCann's to be cold hearted parents who couldn't care less.   However  photo's and video's show the opposite to what you want to paint don't they?

They didn't do nothing,   Kate checked on them and as far as you and I know may have seen signs that they were ok and just wanted tests done to be sure they weren't given anything.   

As for the crèche,   it was during the day,  they wanted things as normal as possible for the twins,  they enjoyed it there,   better than witnessing their parents crying and others crying around them and for them to be upset by it all.

If Kate wanted tests she should have asked for them. If she was 'very concerned' she should have acted on her concerns.

On 4th all the other parents split up. One stayed behind with the children and the other went to be interviewed. The only couple who didn't was the McCanns. Russell, I think, hung around on the balcony of the creche because he didn't want to be far away from his children that day. On that day all the children were cared for at the Tapas site, the Main reception site wasn't used.

[Eleanor]

Golly Gosh.  I am beginning to wonder about just what a dreadful parent I was.  I think I might have left them alone for almost 45 minutes on occasions, or even longer..  I really can't remember.
But they all had awfully long long hair for boys.  That was probably some kind of abuse.

[Alfred R Jones]

When 'raising her concerns' what do you think she wanted the outcome to be ?

For the twins to be tested to see if they had been given a sedative?  No mention of begging for medical assistance unless you know better?

[Alfred R Jones]

It's a measure of their desperation when they are driven to using completely opposing arguments to explain the inexplicable.

There is nothing inexplicable about this issue, but you are asking people who weren't there and who don't know the McCanns to explain their actions and the reasons for what happend that night which is a completely unreasonable ask, whilst at the same time claiming to know exactly what should and shouldn't have happenend. This is bloody ridiculous and unreasonable but I don't expect you'd understand.

[Alfred R Jones]

I'm afraid there's no way to help anyone so deep in denial G. It is sobering though how little regard the supporters have for the children's welfare. Almost as little, it would appear, as their parents.

If you cared that much about the twins' welfare and well-being you'd delete all the smears and snide remarks you've ever written online about their parents. 

[Alfred R Jones]

I know you've probably tried to explain this before but can a sceptic please remind me why they think someone who sedated their children inadvertently causing one of them to die somehow,  would then claim (falsely) in a book written some years that they''d asked for their remaining kids to be tested for sedative drugs?  How would that actually benefit the author of said book?

[G-Unit]

There is nothing inexplicable about this issue, but you are asking people who weren't there and who don't know the McCanns to explain their actions and the reasons for what happend that night which is a completely unreasonable ask, whilst at the same time claiming to know exactly what should and shouldn't have happenend. This is bloody ridiculous and unreasonable but I don't expect you'd understand.

I'm not asking anyone to explain anything. People have taken that upon themselves. I have pointed out that there is no evidence that Kate McCann mentioned her concern about the twins to the Police, which is, no doubt, why they didn't have them tested for sedation. That means it wasn't a mistake by the PJ.

On the other hand, she tells us she and her husband were 'very concerned' about the twins, but there's no evidence they did anything about it. I see that as inexplicable, and the excuses which have been offered haven't changed my mind.

[Alfred R Jones]

I'm not asking anyone to explain anything. People have taken that upon themselves. I have pointed out that there is no evidence that Kate McCann mentioned her concern about the twins to the Police, which is, no doubt, why they didn't have them tested for sedation. That means it wasn't a mistake by the PJ.

On the other hand, she tells us she and her husband were 'very concerned' about the twins, but there's no evidence they did anything about it. I see that as inexplicable, and the excuses which have been offered haven't changed my mind.

Amaral says in his book he thought pretty much straight away that the kids may have been sedated and wanted them tested, but didn't because he didn't want the McCanns to face "trial by media" (lol).  Now, I find THAT both inexplicable and concrete proof of a mistake on his part.

[Mr Gray]

I'm not asking anyone to explain anything. People have taken that upon themselves. I have pointed out that there is no evidence that Kate McCann mentioned her concern about the twins to the Police, which is, no doubt, why they didn't have them tested for sedation. That means it wasn't a mistake by the PJ.

On the other hand, she tells us she and her husband were 'very concerned' about the twins, but there's no evidence they did anything about it. I see that as inexplicable, and the excuses which have been offered haven't changed my mind.

quelle surprise...do you think anything posted on here makes anyone change their mind

[Alice Purjorick]

Amaral says in his book he thought pretty much straight away that the kids may have been sedated and wanted them tested, but didn't because he didn't want the McCanns to face "trial by media" (lol).  Now, I find THAT both inexplicable and concrete proof of a mistake on his part.

Or he is using poetic licence* in his book which is more likely one would have thought.

* also known in lower class circles as "bullshi**ing"

[Alfred R Jones]

Or he is using poetic licence* in his book which is more likely one would have thought.

* also known in lower class circles as "bullshi**ing"

Amaral lied? Never!

[misty]

I'm not asking anyone to explain anything. People have taken that upon themselves. I have pointed out that there is no evidence that Kate McCann mentioned her concern about the twins to the Police, which is, no doubt, why they didn't have them tested for sedation. That means it wasn't a mistake by the PJ.

On the other hand, she tells us she and her husband were 'very concerned' about the twins, but there's no evidence they did anything about it. I see that as inexplicable, and the excuses which have been offered haven't changed my mind.

For what sort of time period do you speculate that the parents remained "very concerned" about the welfare of the twins but neglected to act?