Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?

[faithlilly]

So you'd rather they evaded police questioning by disappearing off to the hospital, leaving their friends to deal with matters?

Kate wasn't overly concerned about 'evading' the 10th of May interviews because she was upset.

And I'd expect her and her husband to put their children's welfare before any inconvenience they may cause their friends by going to the hospital.

[faithlilly]

Probably both Faithlilly, it certainly couldn't be that she had other things on her mind like her missing daughter, or that she felt her remaining children were in safe hands surroundedas they were by more than half a dozen experienced medical practitioners?  Oh no!  Of course they were shit parents and guilty as hell, that's the only explanation.

Even 'experienced medical practitioners' can't assess what the twins may have been given and the best treatment to pe scribe without certain tests including the taking of blood.

[Alfred R Jones]

Perish the thought ! 

As I suspected you really do believe that.  You really have an over-exaggerated sense of the "sceptics" importance in this case if I may say so.

[Alfred R Jones]

Kate wasn't overly concerned about 'evading' the 10th of May interviews because she was upset.

And I'd expect her and her husband to put their children's welfare before any inconvenience they may cause their friends by going to the hospital.

If you think about it rushing their kids to hospital that night would have been a perfect excuse to remove themselves from the scrutiny of the police, something I'm sure anyone who was guilty ofearlier  hiding their kid's body would seize with relish.  They could have used such an opportunitynto "freshen up", dispose of incriminating evidence, anything.

[slartibartfast]

As I suspected you really do believe that.  You really have an over-exaggerated sense of the "sceptics" importance in this case if I may say so.

If you think that the sceptic's importance is the only reason that Kate would want to refute their arguments and opinion, what does that say for the motives of the supporters on here.

P.S. Why sceptics in inverted commas?

[pathfinder73]

As I suspected you really do believe that.  You really have an over-exaggerated sense of the "sceptics" importance in this case if I may say so.

She said she had studied all the files for months (got them translated) and this happens. What was she studying? The suppressed Smithman file?

One word Pathetic!

[Benice]

It's quite amazing the variety of excuses some people will make for the strange behaviour of this couple. One argues that they were so traumatised and panicked that they didn't know if they were coming or going. Another argues that as trained doctors they knew there was no need to panic about the twins. Why report how 'very concerned' they were then? They either were or they weren't.

They are not 'excuses' they are 'reasons'.  There is a big difference,      I'm amazed that some people expected the McCanns to react no differently than if they had just discovered their camera had been stolen.

Unless I've missed it - not once have I seen a post even acknowledging the effect that such a massive shock would have had on them - even though what happened is universally acknowledged to be 'every parent's worst nightmare'.

Bizarre.

[stephen25000]

She said she had studied all the files for months (got them translated) and this happens. What was she studying? The suppressed Smithman file?

One word Pathetic!

Quite right and both were smirking.

Body language very informative.

[G-Unit]

If you think about it rushing their kids to hospital that night would have been a perfect excuse to remove themselves from the scrutiny of the police, something I'm sure anyone who was guilty ofearlier  hiding their kid's body would seize with relish.  They could have used such an opportunitynto "freshen up", dispose of incriminating evidence, anything.

Really? They have seemed more interested in remaining close the investigation. In fact they have seemed to want to direct the investigation from the moment they told the police what crime had been committed. They have demonstrated a keen interest in all the evidence, even that held by Leicestershire Constabulary. I expect their concern for the twins was not strong enough to overcome the need to inform the police what had happened and what they should be doing about it. They also had to ring lots of people to tell them and get 'everything up and running' as Kate put it.

[faithlilly]

If you think about it rushing their kids to hospital that night would have been a perfect excuse to remove themselves from the scrutiny of the police, something I'm sure anyone who was guilty ofearlier  hiding their kid's body would seize with relish.  They could have used such an opportunitynto "freshen up", dispose of incriminating evidence, anything.

And you don't think a police officer or two would have gone with them ?

Besides what incriminating evidence  do you think there was to get rid of or indeed why the need to 'freshen up ? The police  had already observed them, any 'freshening up' at that point certainly would have appeared suspicious.

[faithlilly]

They are not 'excuses' they are 'reasons'.  There is a big difference,      I'm amazed that some people expected the McCanns to react no differently than if they had just discovered their camera had been stolen.

Unless I've missed it - not once have I seen a post even acknowledging the effect that such a massive shock would have had on them - even though what happened is universally acknowledged to be 'every parent's worst nightmare'.

Bizarre.

I think it's the selective manifestation of their devastation that raises questions in most people's minds Benice.

[G-Unit]

They are not 'excuses' they are 'reasons'.  There is a big difference,      I'm amazed that some people expected the McCanns to react no differently than if they had just discovered their camera had been stolen.

Unless I've missed it - not once have I seen a post even acknowledging the effect that such a massive shock would have had on them - even though what happened is universally acknowledged to be 'every parent's worst nightmare'.

Bizarre.

They are only reasons if you think they are. As you have no more idea what they were feeling and thinking than I have speculation about their feelings is just opinion.

As there is no evidence that Madeleine was abducted I will wait for that to be proved before I empathise. If it didn't happen then their feelings were not those of parents who had a child stolen, are they?

All I can do is look at their words and actions and in the case of the twins their words and actions don't make sense to any normal person. The 'reasons' or 'excuses' given still don't explain why they didn't get them checked out, whether you believe the 'abduction' happened or not. If it did it's inexplicable why they played fast and loose with the twins, their remaining children.

[Lace]

It is obvious to me that at the time,  it was only Kate who was concerned about the twins.    The remark made by Fiona in her statement when she said 'that was another thing, she kept going back and placing her hand on the backs of the twins'    she found it odd for Kate to do that.    So Fiona thought even though the twins didn't wake with all the noise that they were fine.   No doubt she was telling Kate they were fine.    It was only Kate who found the stain on Madeleine's pyjama's and only Kate who was wondering if the abductor had tried the night before.   

Kate was also in a state of shock obviously,  her daughter was missing,   having not been in that position I can't even begin to imagine what state her head was in.

With being consoled and checking the twins,   Kate still asked the PJ if they could be tested for drugs,  just in case probably.    Kate must have known the twins were ok and just sleeping.

Later though when speaking to Gerry in my opinion they both wanted the twins tested.

In my opinion this request was reported to Amaral who did nothing.   Then when writing his book made up some ludicrous reason why he didn't have the twins tested.

[faithlilly]

It is obvious to me that at the time,  it was only Kate who was concerned about the twins.    The remark made by Fiona in her statement when she said 'that was another thing, she kept going back and placing her hand on the backs of the twins'    she found it odd for Kate to do that.    So Fiona thought even though the twins didn't wake with all the noise that they were fine.   No doubt she was telling Kate they were fine.    It was only Kate who found the stain on Madeleine's pyjama's and only Kate who was wondering if the abductor had tried the night before.   

Kate was also in a state of shock obviously,  her daughter was missing,   having not been in that position I can't even begin to imagine what state her head was in.

With being consoled and checking the twins,   Kate still asked the PJ if they could be tested for drugs,  just in case probably.    Kate must have known the twins were ok and just sleeping.

Later though when speaking to Gerry in my opinion they both wanted the twins tested.

In my opinion this request was reported to Amaral who did nothing.   Then when writing his book made up some ludicrous reason why he didn't have the twins tested.

This is the whole quote from Fiona's rogatory inteview :

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 'No, and that was the other thing, she kept going into the twins, she kept putting her hands on the twins to check they were breathing, she was very much concerned in checking that they were okay. But they were okay, I mean, they were fine, they didn't, they were asleep, but at the time it did seem weird, I remember thinking, you know, when the Police came they turned the lights on, there was loads of noise, obviously from the moment Kate discovered that Madeleine was gone, the screaming and the shouting and there was a lot of noise and they, they didn't, you know, so much as blink'.

So it 'seemed weird ' but as a doctor she did nothing either. That's what's really weird.

[G-Unit]

It is obvious to me that at the time,  it was only Kate who was concerned about the twins.    The remark made by Fiona in her statement when she said 'that was another thing, she kept going back and placing her hand on the backs of the twins'    she found it odd for Kate to do that.    So Fiona thought even though the twins didn't wake with all the noise that they were fine.   No doubt she was telling Kate they were fine.    It was only Kate who found the stain on Madeleine's pyjama's and only Kate who was wondering if the abductor had tried the night before.   

Kate was also in a state of shock obviously,  her daughter was missing,   having not been in that position I can't even begin to imagine what state her head was in.

With being consoled and checking the twins,   Kate still asked the PJ if they could be tested for drugs,  just in case probably.    Kate must have known the twins were ok and just sleeping.

Later though when speaking to Gerry in my opinion they both wanted the twins tested.

In my opinion this request was reported to Amaral who did nothing.   Then when writing his book made up some ludicrous reason why he didn't have the twins tested.

There you go again. Now you're contradicting the woman herself who said they were both concerned. There is no evidence she asked the PJ to test the twins. There is no evidence anyone told Amaral at the time. Another nice little story which cannot be verified. Why should anyone accept your opinions as a true record of what happened?