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Offline blonk

Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« on: January 22, 2016, 11:39:18 PM »
A petition on the Prime Minister's website re Madeleine McCann was set up on 22 October last year.

It simply calls for the Home Secretary to provide a report to the public on what the £12million-plus and 5-year-long Operation Grange investigation has actually achieved.

Are we any the wiser about what really happened to her...who took her...or where she was taken?   

Prime Minister petitions last for 6 months. Today is the half-way stage. The petition will close on 22 April.

So far, 1,161 have signed it. More details here, where you can also add your signature:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/108562


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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2016, 07:38:14 AM »
A petition on the Prime Minister's website re Madeleine McCann was set up on 22 October last year.

It simply calls for the Home Secretary to provide a report to the public on what the £12million-plus and 5-year-long Operation Grange investigation has actually achieved.

Are we any the wiser about what really happened to her...who took her...or where she was taken?   

Prime Minister petitions last for 6 months. Today is the half-way stage. The petition will close on 22 April.

So far, 1,161 have signed it. More details here, where you can also add your signature:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/108562
The chances of getting much detail about a live investigation is probably as good a definition of zero as it gets.

Operation Grange has already provided outline detail of what has occurred - number of statements taken, lines of enquiry investigated etc etc.  This was done after the petition was started.  It may, or it may not, have been a disclosure designed to head off the petition.

So... let's see.  Half way through the lifetime of the petition and 1,161 people have signed it.  What is the number of signatures before a response is mandatory? 

What will we learn at the end of the period?  If it hits the target, OG can supply us with much the same info that has already been supplied. 

Or, it fails to hit the target and that tells us what?  Would it be that there are few people ACTIVELY interested enough in the case to register their email address?  The number of viewers on this forum (the Madeleine section) is fairly large.  The number of active posters is probably around a dozen.

The other option if failure occurs, which looks likely, is that as the petition is worded, it is not going to get us much that Operation Grange has already disclosed.

Mr Bennett has managed to get some information out of information requests, and for that I am grateful.  I have already published, in the news section, that a response to a request of his is clear that as of Dec 2015, both Tannerman and Smithman had NOT been identified conclusively, and the public was being encouraged to send further information on both to Operation Grange.  A worthwhile step forward that seems to have escaped the media.

My prediction is a failure to hit the target required, by a massive number, but good luck anyway.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2016, 08:18:36 AM »
A petition on the Prime Minister's website re Madeleine McCann was set up on 22 October last year.

It simply calls for the Home Secretary to provide a report to the public on what the £12million-plus and 5-year-long Operation Grange investigation has actually achieved.

Are we any the wiser about what really happened to her...who took her...or where she was taken?   

Prime Minister petitions last for 6 months. Today is the half-way stage. The petition will close on 22 April.

So far, 1,161 have signed it. More details here, where you can also add your signature:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/108562

That is an true indication of the support the sceptic movement has

stephen25000

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Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2016, 09:18:10 AM »
The lack of response probably reflects public interest in the case.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2016, 09:29:34 AM »
That is an true indication of the support the sceptic movement has

I'm sceptical of the official McCann story, but I'm a member of no movement. I wouldn't be interested in this petition because, as SL has pointed out, the investigation has not yet ended. Until it does, a report on it's achievements is unlikely. It could be on the verge of a solution or, as seems more likely, on the verge of giving up. Even then it may not officially close, so still nothing will be released. Some information may be forthcoming if the Portuguese close or archive their investigation.
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Offline John

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2016, 11:51:48 AM »
I wasn't even aware of it or at least had forgotten all about it.  Unless a Petition is routinely promoted on social media on a regular basis the public at large lose interest.  A bit like the case itself, I have found the public have become weary of dead ends.

That said however, is there any point?  If Scotland Yard had found something, anything, with the help of the Portuguese police whose domain it is after all, we would surely have heard about it by now given how easily leaks occur in Portugal?

I for one go with the nada, zilch, nothing found theory for the time being at least.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2016, 11:52:13 AM »
LOL ... the petition was doomed to failure from the word go.  All it has achieved is an illustration of how few sceptics there are in reality since the drive has been going on for months.

Seeking to publicise it using a thread on this forum is a bit pointless as any with a mind to sign have probably already done so and the wider audience who stumble upon our pages from time to time are possibly far too sensible.

One wonders at this constant need to impede in any way whatsoever the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance.

                                                       One doesn't have to wonder cui bono.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2016, 12:03:05 PM »
LOL ... the petition was doomed to failure from the word go.  All it has achieved is an illustration of how few sceptics there are in reality since the drive has been going on for months.

Seeking to publicise it using a thread on this forum is a bit pointless as any with a mind to sign have probably already done so and the wider audience who stumble upon our pages from time to time are possibly far too sensible.

One wonders at this constant need to impede in any way whatsoever the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance.

                                                       One doesn't have to wonder cui bono.

Does it illustrate how few 'sceptic' there are ? I'm a 'sceptic' and I haven't signed it.

What was it Anthony Summers said about the McCann's account of that night.....ah yes :

"We soon realised as we talked to people from all walks of life that many, many people seemed to suspect there was something wrong with the parents’ account"

I'm sure very few of those people signed the petition either.
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stephen25000

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Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2016, 12:28:07 PM »
Does it illustrate how few 'sceptic' there are ? I'm a 'sceptic' and I haven't signed it.

What was it Anthony Summers said about the McCann's account of that night.....ah yes :

"We soon realised as we talked to people from all walks of life that many, many people seemed to suspect there was something wrong with the parents’ account"

I'm sure very few of those people signed the petition either.

Well said.

I haven't signed it either.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2016, 12:28:44 PM »
Does it illustrate how few 'sceptic' there are ? I'm a 'sceptic' and I haven't signed it.

What was it Anthony Summers said about the McCann's account of that night.....ah yes :

"We soon realised as we talked to people from all walks of life that many, many people seemed to suspect there was something wrong with the parents’ account"

I'm sure very few of those people signed the petition either.
cite for the quote

Offline John

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2016, 01:26:06 PM »
Petitions to the UK government have become rather meaningless these days.  Just take the anti Trump one which attracted well over half a million signatures in little over a few weeks.  Does anyone really believe that the British Government would ban a man who could well become the President of the United States of America from visiting these hallowed shores?

It would be interesting to know how many of those signatories are of foreign origin?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2016, 01:35:58 PM »
Petitions to the UK government have become rather meaningless these days.  Just take the anti Trump one which attracted well over half a million signatures in little over a few weeks.  Does anyone really believe that the British Government would ban a man who could well become the President of the United States of America from visiting these hallowed shores?

It would be interesting to know how many of those signatories are of foreign origin?

Especially for saying something that was contrary to his own country's constitution so would never happen anyway.
It got him a lot of air time though, which was all he was after one suspects.
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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2016, 01:42:56 PM »
cite for the quote

As usual there is a marked reluctance to offer a cite -

“We soon realised as we talked to people from all walks of life that many, many people seemed to suspect there was something wrong with the parents’ account and – and we started to think we could bring something to this almost unique story by drilling down to the best evidence. Our publisher agreed. That’s how it started, and here we are more than two years later.”

http://algarvedailynews.com/news/27-features/legal/3409-summers-and-swan-reply-to-critics-of-their-madeleine-book

 

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2016, 01:56:33 PM »
As usual there is a marked reluctance to offer a cite -

“We soon realised as we talked to people from all walks of life that many, many people seemed to suspect there was something wrong with the parents’ account and – and we started to think we could bring something to this almost unique story by drilling down to the best evidence. Our publisher agreed. That’s how it started, and here we are more than two years later.”

http://algarvedailynews.com/news/27-features/legal/3409-summers-and-swan-reply-to-critics-of-their-madeleine-book

That's fair enough.
At the getgo S & S state "people from all walks of life that many, many people seemed to suspect there was something wrong with the parents’ account"

then:

"That’s how it started, and here we are more than two years later.”

How many of the many many have changed their minds since reading the book ?. Have we been told? (with a cite of course and the method of measurement)  ?{)(**
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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2016, 01:59:23 PM »
That's fair enough.
At the getgo S & S state "people from all walks of life that many, many people seemed to suspect there was something wrong with the parents’ account"

then:

"That’s how it started, and here we are more than two years later.”

How many of the many many have changed their minds since reading the book ?. Have we been told? (with a cite of course and the method of measurement)  ?{)(**

A good starting point may be "how many have read the book"?  8(0(*


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