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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #405 on: February 04, 2016, 02:11:56 PM »
Even if the active current investigations come to an end, a "smoking gun" could always emerge at some point, as occasionally happens when investigating a different case and having a database to cross-check.

For instance, although it is currently not known if there is any connection between smelly-man and Madeleine's disappearance,  if there is another victim of the smelly-man type, wherever it occurs, then there would at least be some information in the database to either eliminate him as being the same person or not.
Since we are now entering the realms of fresh evidence, it is hardly likely to of the type that implicates the McCanns.  Hence there is no need to drag in corruption or whistleblowers.

If someone makes a death bed confession that clearly links to the McCanns and appears to be sound, I can see no reason why this would not be investigated, remit or not.  The remit does prevent OG from investigating the McCanns in routine manner, consequently any information to get this changed would need to be substantial.  Fair enough.  There is still no need for corruption or whistleblowers.
What's up, old man?

Offline Carana

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #406 on: February 04, 2016, 02:13:55 PM »
It's common sense that a SY officer would not to be allowed to reveal anything that could compromise a case they have now taken on.

'High profile reviews, such as this one, are highly emotive and the manner in which they are conducted are usually kept in strict secrecy so that the tactics and lines of enquiry that are followed do not become public knowledge thereby rendering them useless.'

I agree. Amaral may not have realised that Freitas would require special permission to testify in a civil case. Did Amaral seek to take this further and apply to the Home Office?

Offline Carana

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #407 on: February 04, 2016, 02:25:23 PM »
Since we are now entering the realms of fresh evidence, it is hardly likely to of the type that implicates the McCanns.  Hence there is no need to drag in corruption or whistleblowers.

If someone makes a death bed confession that clearly links to the McCanns and appears to be sound, I can see no reason why this would not be investigated, remit or not.  The remit does prevent OG from investigating the McCanns in routine manner, consequently any information to get this changed would need to be substantial.  Fair enough.  There is still no need for corruption or whistleblowers.

I've been through all the points and I can't find anything that would indicate a "sham" or "charade".

And I'm still not clear what type of "full report" Blonk expects to be made publicly available.

There may well be some form of blurb published for public consumption, but it clearly won't be the totality of whatever the internal one will contain, for numerous reasons.

If there are sound reasons to question decisions and financial outlay, that would be a matter for an independent police inquiry. In the Jersey case, it was Wiltshire police who took on Operation Haven.

I don't see any comparison between the evident Jersey fiasco and the review / investigation into the Madeleine case.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2016, 03:53:31 PM by Carana »

Offline John

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #408 on: February 04, 2016, 03:35:55 PM »
Topic please, Tony Bennett's Petition. TY
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #409 on: February 04, 2016, 04:00:25 PM »
Since we are now entering the realms of fresh evidence, it is hardly likely to of the type that implicates the McCanns.  Hence there is no need to drag in corruption or whistleblowers.

If someone makes a death bed confession that clearly links to the McCanns and appears to be sound, I can see no reason why this would not be investigated, remit or not.  The remit does prevent OG from investigating the McCanns in routine manner, consequently any information to get this changed would need to be substantial.  Fair enough.  There is still no need for corruption or whistleblowers.

I agree. If ever someone had contacted either the Met or the PJ concerning Smithman and had found long lost authenticated photos of Gerry scurrying down towards the beach with a child, a a blue tennis bag over one shoulder, a pink blanket over the other one, and a fridge strapped to his back, then the investigation would have to take a different turn.

So far, that doesn't appear to be the case.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2016, 09:22:52 PM by Carana »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #410 on: February 04, 2016, 06:44:13 PM »
This recent article (and the detailed Home Office report on which it is based)  - about the existence of 2,000-plus corrupt police officers and a web of state agency corruption - is a good starting point:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798182/at-2-000-corrupt-police-officers-suspected-tipping-criminals-stealing-fabricating-evidence-using-power-money-sex-says-home-office-report.html

Thought this article raised by bennett was worth a read.....it confirms that 99% of SY officers are not corrupt...what a great force they are...thank you for highlighting this article...

just read the article again and its been corrected...the figure is now 99.5%...well done SY and well done bennett for bringing this to our attention
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #411 on: February 04, 2016, 07:04:32 PM »
Thought this article raised by bennett was worth a read.....it confirms that 99% of SY officers are not corrupt...what a great force they are...thank you for highlighting this article...

just read the article again and its been corrected...the figure is now 99.5%...well done SY and well done bennett for bringing this to our attention

So about 150 or so officers are bent assuming the 99.5% figure is correct.
0.13% of the UK population are inside.
So is the MPS record good bad or indifferent?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #412 on: February 04, 2016, 07:41:35 PM »
So about 150 or so officers are bent assuming the 99.5% figure is correct.
0.13% of the UK population are inside.
So is the MPS record good bad or indifferent?

I would say the MPS record appears to be excellent




Offline mercury

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #413 on: February 04, 2016, 09:30:18 PM »
Scores on scores on scores of MPs have signed this petition....I doubt they were "confused" Or saw it as "questionable"..




Offline Mr Gray

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #414 on: February 04, 2016, 09:32:59 PM »
Scores on scores on scores of MPs have signed this petition....I doubt they were "confused" Or saw it as "questionable"..

you are joking ...or are you confused

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #415 on: February 04, 2016, 09:40:54 PM »
Scores on scores on scores of MPs have signed this petition....I doubt they were "confused" Or saw it as "questionable"..

chortles...just checked and David Cameron is on the list
« Last Edit: February 04, 2016, 09:47:32 PM by davel »

Offline Carana

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #416 on: February 04, 2016, 09:56:27 PM »
Scores on scores on scores of MPs have signed this petition....I doubt they were "confused" Or saw it as "questionable"..

If you're looking at the data, it seems to be people who've signed within an MPs constituency... unless some MPs have signed 3-4 times.

Offline mercury

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #417 on: February 04, 2016, 10:03:44 PM »
If you're looking at the data, it seems to be people who've signed within an MPs constituency... unless some MPs have signed 3-4 times.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #418 on: February 04, 2016, 10:06:16 PM »
If you're looking at the data, it seems to be people who've signed within an MPs constituency... unless some MPs have signed 3-4 times.

don't spoil  it

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website
« Reply #419 on: February 04, 2016, 10:08:16 PM »
I'm not sure what you mean.

she means you are confused if you think David Cameron and lots of MPs have signed this petition