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stephen25000

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1500 on: November 29, 2016, 10:18:17 AM »
Do you feel the same way when you read Jeremy Wilkins' rogatory statement.  Full of facts - NOT.  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

Is that your professional opinion ?

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1501 on: November 29, 2016, 10:24:31 AM »
Is that your professional opinion ?
Absolutely - every fact has the opposite as a possibility as well,  ie he may or may not have been going in that direction.
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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1502 on: November 29, 2016, 10:31:15 AM »
Here is an example of the accuracy of the statement
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As stated in my original deposition, I believe that I left the apartment around 20h30. I calculate that I met Gerry on the road between 20h45 and 21h15. I am aware of the importance of this hour and am also aware that the media announced our meeting time as 21h05. Even if this were correct, I have no idea from where such information originated. It is not possible to give you a more exact time.
That is a time range of 15 minutes to 45 minutes after he left his apartment.  What sort of calculation was he doing to have such a tight time frame?
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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1503 on: November 29, 2016, 10:39:58 AM »
Absolutely - every fact has the opposite as a possibility as well,  ie he may or may not have been going in that direction.


So what profession is your opinion based on ?


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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1504 on: November 29, 2016, 10:40:58 AM »

So what profession is your opinion based on ?
Scientist
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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1505 on: November 29, 2016, 10:55:12 AM »

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1506 on: November 29, 2016, 11:48:19 AM »
Do you feel the same way when you read Jeremy Wilkins' rogatory statement.  Full of facts - NOT.  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm


wasn't it g mcc who said confusion is good ..mayby they all thought the same......
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1507 on: November 29, 2016, 02:24:32 PM »
Here is an example of the accuracy of the statement That is a time range of 15 minutes to 45 minutes after he left his apartment.  What sort of calculation was he doing to have such a tight time frame?
Here is an attempt.  Walking only 15 minutes.  Walking and stalking 30 minutes.  Walking, stalking and talking 45 minutes.
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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1508 on: November 29, 2016, 02:27:22 PM »
In what field exactly ?
Physics.  Time, motion distances and velocities would define how long the journey took.
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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1509 on: November 29, 2016, 04:12:00 PM »
Physics.  Time, motion distances and velocities would define how long the journey took.


What ????

G.C.S.E. Standard material.

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1510 on: November 29, 2016, 04:36:07 PM »

wasn't it g mcc who said confusion is good ..mayby they all thought the same......

This claim is often made by sceptics.    Can you provide the cite please - or withdraw the claim.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Brietta

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1511 on: November 30, 2016, 11:34:08 AM »

wasn't it g mcc who said confusion is good ..mayby they all thought the same......

No ... it wasn't ... the actual quote was made by "The Slave".  Gerry McCann never uttered the words of yet another forum myth.

Quote by "The Slave" on 9th February 2010
"Confusion is good ? For you maybe, Gerry."

http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39078182/Rebuttal%20of%20%22Fact%22%2039
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1512 on: March 09, 2017, 10:22:20 AM »
I have been slowly going through Mr Hall's videos on You Tube and looked at his website. His other videos aside which have no bearing on Madeleine's case, he does put together what information he has and presents it concisely. I can understand why many people favour these videos over others as a top down four hour overview of the case.

Having said that I do feel that Mr Hall is being pulled off in a certain direction which leaves him open to close scrutiny that doesn't add up. For example, his theory is that Madeleine died, a high level cover up ensued which led to Madeleine's body being hidden and then stored in the new hire car some two weeks later. I hope I have summerised his theory correctly. Here is where I have a disagreement with Mr Hall's conclusion. If a high level cover up was being carried out, is it likely that the parents would be left to conceal, hold and dispose of the body knowing that at any time, they being the weakest links in the cover up could be discovered and expose those involved?

High level cover up means just that, not just the crime on the ground, physical evidence etc, but all the subsequent investigations and evidence. Even control of the media narrative. Now many would say, Mr Hall as well I would suspect, that most of these things did happen and therefore are indicative of the high level cover up. Except for the glaring theory he has about Madeleine's body still being in the back of a hire car. It's just not the way cover ups are done.

Any way, I continue to watch his videos with great interest

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1513 on: March 09, 2017, 10:29:09 AM »
I have been slowly going through Mr Hall's videos on You Tube and looked at his website. His other videos aside which have no bearing on Madeleine's case, he does put together what information he has and presents it concisely. I can understand why many people favour these videos over others as a top down four hour overview of the case.

Having said that I do feel that Mr Hall is being pulled off in a certain direction which leaves him open to close scrutiny that doesn't add up. For example, his theory is that Madeleine died, a high level cover up ensued which led to Madeleine's body being hidden and then stored in the new hire car some two weeks later. I hope I have summerised his theory correctly. Here is where I have a disagreement with Mr Hall's conclusion. If a high level cover up was being carried out, is it likely that the parents would be left to conceal, hold and dispose of the body knowing that at any time, they being the weakest links in the cover up could be discovered and expose those involved?

High level cover up means just that, not just the crime on the ground, physical evidence etc, but all the subsequent investigations and evidence. Even control of the media narrative. Now many would say, Mr Hall as well I would suspect, that most of these things did happen and therefore are indicative of the high level cover up. Except for the glaring theory he has about Madeleine's body still being in the back of a hire car. It's just not the way cover ups are done.

Any way, I continue to watch his videos with great interest
You only need to watch the same one twice to get your 8 hours sleep.
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Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #1514 on: March 09, 2017, 10:39:20 AM »
You only need to watch the same one twice to get your 8 hours sleep.

They are long but I am prepared to believe that he is doing what he believes to be a complete overview. I think he mentions this several times in presentations he has done.

The problem is I still feel, despite his research that he is not thinking through his theory to a realistic conclusion. I think if I was to meet Mr Hall, my first question would be what is his understanding of the mechanics of a high level cover up and what cover ups he has studied to draw comparisons.