Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb

[ferryman]

That isn't the point.

Of course it isn't.

It's only the subject of the thread, after all ....

[Carana]

To a certain extent I would agree, but when you use that view to encourage others to ignore the message completely it does become textbook.

I haven't discouraged anyone from watching and forming their own opinion, have I?

[Alice Purjorick]

Possibly, However, before taking anyone seriously, I find it a reasonable precaution to at least have an overview of the person's other work to assist in forming an opinion as to how credible the latest magnum opus may be.

Or would you disagree?

Try checking out Vincent Bugliosi, Joaquim Joesten and Summers and Swann on that basis.
If you have nothing better to do for a couple of weeks 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lch0o4wwGyw

[Eleanor]

I've listened to the first tape.    It's certainly a brilliant cure for insomnia.  I genuinely struggled to stay awake.

Basically -   imo his theory appears to be that every person who has said anything which doesn't support his own views is lying.

Every newspaper article is completely true.    Except those that don't suit him and those are full of lies.

He also seems to think that not only did the McCann's friends cheerfully and immediately -  without a second thought - agree to perjure themselves and become accessories to a heinous crime  -  but people who didn't know them from Adam also happily agreed to do them the same favour.   

The fact that they would have to be either simple-minded or insane to agree to such a dangerous course of action - which could result in their ending up in prison themselves with a conviction for perverting the course of justice- appears to have totally escaped him.


AIMHO

He's not the only one who thinks they were all lying, Benice.

Does he mention when they all got together to organise this, or why they should do it?  More than half of them complete strangers.

Why is he doing this?  It might be free now, but it's looking like the latest, "Let's all Donate Scheme" to get The McCanns.

It wouldn't stand a hope in hell's chance in Court, of course.  Even I could tear him to shreds.

[slartibartfast]

I haven't discouraged anyone from watching and forming their own opinion, have I?

Hmmm, better just to let people make their own minds up, they would probably arrive at a similar place.

[Eleanor]

To a certain extent I would agree, but when you use that view to encourage others to ignore the message completely it does become textbook.

I wouldn't encourage anyone to ignore it.  Everyone watch it, please do.  Some of us even manage a laugh at any Conspiracy Theory.  You know, just how barking are these people?  Woof.

[Alfred R Jones]

That isn't the point.

So the point isn't whether or not Richard Hall and his video is credible, the point is...what exactly?

[pathfinder73]

Gerry didn't go in every room of the apartment. He wasn't on the toilet a long time. Matt didn't say a window was open or shutters raised. Light was getting in from open slats as said in Gerry's statement.

"The outside blinds were closed with only two or three slats open."

"He adds that he never entered any other part of the residence [his bedroom or the kitchen] where he was for only two or three minutes, leaving yet again through the rear door."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

Where is Richard Hall getting all this misinformation from? There's so much in the first 15 minutes that I've watched so far.

[Eleanor]

Gerry didn't go in every room of the apartment. He wasn't on the toilet a long time. Matt didn't say a window was open or shutters raised. Light was getting in from open slats as said in Gerry's statement.

"The outside blinds were closed with only two or three slats open."

"He adds that he never entered any other part of the residence [his bedroom or the kitchen] where he was for only two or three minutes, leaving yet again through the rear door."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

Where is Richard Hall getting all this misinformation from? There's so much in the first 15 minutes that I've watched so far.

Thanks.  That's  some of it.  I just couldn't be bothered.  But I am always pleased when someone else can.

[slartibartfast]

So the point isn't whether or not Richard Hall and his video is credible, the point is...what exactly?

The point is letting everyone make their own mind up. If off the wall theories are given bandwidth their validity can quickly be checked and accepted or discounted as appropriate

[Carana]

Try checking out Vincent Bugliosi, Joaquim Joesten and Summers and Swann on that basis.
If you have nothing better to do for a couple of weeks 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lch0o4wwGyw

LOL

I've listened to the first few minutes and already it doesn't make sense. I'll try to wade through more of it.

[Brietta]

To a certain extent I would agree, but when you use that view to encourage others to ignore the message completely it does become textbook.

I'm not entirely sure how to take your accusation that Carana is "encouraging others to ignore the message completely".  Interesting phraseology.

For one, I found it impossible to view the rubbish his last oeuvre consisted of ... despite a valiant attempt to do so. 
I may get round to subjecting myself to having a look at this one or I may not.

But be assured no-one will encourage or influence me to ignore anything ... I am perfectly capable of deciding for myself ... as is everyone else posting here.

[Carana]

Try checking out Vincent Bugliosi, Joaquim Joesten and Summers and Swann on that basis.
If you have nothing better to do for a couple of weeks 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lch0o4wwGyw

Would that include Amaral's book?

[Alfred R Jones]

The point is letting everyone make their own mind up. If off the wall theories are given bandwidth their validity can quickly be checked and accepted or discounted as appropriate

And how does considering Hall's oeuvre as a whole prevent people making their own mind up?

[Mr Gray]

The point is letting everyone make their own mind up. If off the wall theories are given bandwidth their validity can quickly be checked and accepted or discounted as appropriate

everyone can make their own mind up...you seem to have a problem with posters pointing out that his premise is based on a lie...that is a fact