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Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #330 on: February 29, 2016, 10:16:54 AM »
now you said that ....not me ..

he seemed rather pleased ...everything was fine ....

makes you think why g mcc asked him to go in the first place ...

What a very strange interpretation to put on an act that was designed to help Kate with three small children should she have wanted to take them out again.
I seriously wonder how the minds of some people work.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #331 on: February 29, 2016, 10:23:31 AM »
What a very strange interpretation to put on an act that was designed to help Kate with three small children should she have wanted to take them out again.
I seriously wonder how the minds of some people work.

And it's still unsolved so there's more to discover. There are too many contradictions about that visit for it to be the truth!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #332 on: February 29, 2016, 10:33:07 AM »
What a very strange interpretation to put on an act that was designed to help Kate with three small children should she have wanted to take them out again.
I seriously wonder how the minds of some people work.


strange how peoples minds work ...yes....what was he going to help her with

it seems to me ..she had probably been in a mood.....he thought the children were going to be in trouble ...not to help in case she was going back out...


  00:39:55 Reply "But err certainly enough time just to see, you know, certainly the apartment, there was nothing that was untoward, that was you know err the children all looked extremely happy,

there was no, you know signs of any problems with err you know Kate, you know or indeed the relationship that Kate had got with any of the three children. None of the children had been told off, none of the children looked like they were you know in trouble for anything, you know they were err still all talking and playing around. Err so you know it was just a very err transient you know that I'd gone in there, but as I say it just struck me how well they all looked.'
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #333 on: February 29, 2016, 10:36:22 AM »
She did sleep in the spare bed and didn't go with the rest to the beach. So it's hard to believe she was in a good mood the following day with Gerry.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Lace

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #334 on: February 29, 2016, 10:38:18 AM »

strange how peoples minds work ...yes....what was he going to help her with

it seems to me ..she had probably been in a mood.....he thought the children were going to be in trouble ...not to help in case she was going back out...


  00:39:55 Reply "But err certainly enough time just to see, you know, certainly the apartment, there was nothing that was untoward, that was you know err the children all looked extremely happy,

there was no, you know signs of any problems with err you know Kate, you know or indeed the relationship that Kate had got with any of the three children. None of the children had been told off, none of the children looked like they were you know in trouble for anything, you know they were err still all talking and playing around. Err so you know it was just a very err transient you know that I'd gone in there, but as I say it just struck me how well they all looked.'

If Gerry had thought Kate would be in a mood then he wouldn't have gone out to play tennis in the first place in my opinion,   he had helped to bath the children before he went,  so he would know what sort of mood Kate was in.


Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #335 on: February 29, 2016, 10:38:59 AM »
If Gerry had thought Kate would be in a mood then he wouldn't have gone out to play tennis in the first place in my opinion,   he had helped to bath the children before he went,  so he would know what sort of mood Kate was in.

Normal bath time for the kids is 6:30 not Kate's.

Fiona talking to Gerry at tennis.

"Kate and the kids, I think, as I said earlier, weren't there and, you know, they, as Gerry said, were just absolutely knackered and Kate was getting them bathed and ready for bed."
« Last Edit: February 29, 2016, 10:44:22 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #336 on: February 29, 2016, 10:41:56 AM »

strange how peoples minds work ...yes....what was he going to help her with

it seems to me ..she had probably been in a mood.....he thought the children were going to be in trouble ...not to help in case she was going back out...


  00:39:55 Reply "But err certainly enough time just to see, you know, certainly the apartment, there was nothing that was untoward, that was you know err the children all looked extremely happy,

there was no, you know signs of any problems with err you know Kate, you know or indeed the relationship that Kate had got with any of the three children. None of the children had been told off, none of the children looked like they were you know in trouble for anything, you know they were err still all talking and playing around. Err so you know it was just a very err transient you know that I'd gone in there, but as I say it just struck me how well they all looked.'

Gerry asked him to call in.  So do you think Gerry was worried that Kate might batter the children?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #337 on: February 29, 2016, 10:46:10 AM »
Gerry asked him to call in.  So do you think Gerry was worried that Kate might batter the children?

Gerry said to Fiona at tennis so why send anyone?

"Kate was getting them bathed and ready for bed."

That opens another can of worms with other controversial statements.
« Last Edit: February 29, 2016, 11:10:40 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #338 on: February 29, 2016, 11:23:16 AM »
Gerry said to Fiona at tennis so why send anyone?

"Kate was getting them bathed and ready for bed."

That opens another can of worms with other controversial statements.

Do you know, I think Gerry was just being kind, and so was David Payne, whose statement was made in hindsight.

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #339 on: February 29, 2016, 11:49:44 AM »
Do you know, I think Gerry was just being kind, and so was David Payne, whose statement was made in hindsight.

in hindsight of what
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #340 on: February 29, 2016, 11:54:11 AM »
in hindsight of what

In hindsight of the hideous rumours of Kate losing her temper and bashing Madeleine.

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #341 on: February 29, 2016, 11:54:43 AM »
She did sleep in the spare bed and didn't go with the rest to the beach. So it's hard to believe she was in a good mood the following day with Gerry.


that's why i think the check ...was . ...to check the children were OK...by the responce of Payne ...in statement  they hadn't been told off etc etc...
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

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Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #342 on: February 29, 2016, 11:56:52 AM »
In hindsight of the hideous rumours of Kate losing her temper and bashing Madeleine.

what rumours......................how do you know she didn't
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #343 on: February 29, 2016, 12:06:27 PM »
Gerry said they played tennis until 16.30 and then stayed around until the twins went to the meal area at 16.45. Madeleine arrived at 17.00 with the teachers and the other children. The meal finished at 17.30.

He doesn't mention Kate's run to the beach which took place during that time. Cat Baker didn't see Gerry at the children's high tea. Kate signed the twins out at 17.25 and Madeleine at 17.30.

There's no independent evidence that Gerry was at high tea. There's no independent evidence that he went back to the apartment between 17.30 and 18.00.

If he didn't, that would explain why he asked David to check up on Kate.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #344 on: February 29, 2016, 12:10:13 PM »
what rumours......................how do you know she didn't

More to the point, can you prove that Kate did batter Madeleine?

We have this quaint, old Law in Britain wherein everyone is Innocent until Proven Guilty.

I am well aware of the fact that this doesn't always apply in Portugal, but that is your problem rather than mine or Kate's.

Happy Hunting with that.