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Offline Brietta

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #195 on: February 26, 2016, 07:41:39 PM »
One might wonder why RDH felt the need to add the question mark.

Does that make it less actionable?  However I don't think he will be Rucked anyway ... unless they can find someone able to stay awake long enough to find why they should be offended.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #196 on: February 26, 2016, 07:44:45 PM »
For the sake of our friends in the U.S., I will raise to '1 NO TRUMP'

Very good!  did you nick that idea from, I believe it was, General Motors in the days when Nixon was President and Spiro Agnew was VP. GM wrote to Tricky Dicky and said "we'll fire a Vice President if you do the same".
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #197 on: February 26, 2016, 07:53:48 PM »
I would have been tremendously suspicious if a group of seven people were in perfect accord and harmony in their account of events with every nano second accounted for and each and every statement slotting seamlessly into everyone else's.

But there you are ... it takes all kinds.

Anyway ... back to the nitty gritty of Richard Hall's latest oeuvre ... is there anyone out there who has had the stamina to have been able to subject themselves to all of it?

If so would they be kind enough to say if within the content any new light was cast on what may have happened to Madeleine McCann?  if he produced any new thought that might have been helpful to the current investigation the genesis of which lies in her parents insistence?
Or do they have any suggestions or ideas as to why he might have bothered to produce it at all?

Reply to red font.

Really?  You think all saying something different is more believable? OK does take all kinds as you say. However, they found time to play on words. Claiming they were 'checking' on the children regularly- quite obvious this was not the case. They failed to say it was a listening at the door  system not  an actual physical check. Maddie could have been missing for a couple of hours before the alarm was raised...

DP on that visit another anomaly he can't recall why he was there? WTF.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #198 on: February 26, 2016, 08:05:34 PM »
Does that make it less actionable?  However I don't think he will be Rucked anyway ... unless they can find someone able to stay awake long enough to find why they should be offended.

They won't.  Too, too boring.  I nearly died after 35 minutes.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #199 on: February 26, 2016, 08:07:23 PM »

Gosh.  Have The McCanns been arrested?

Offline Brietta

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #200 on: February 26, 2016, 08:11:56 PM »
Reply to red font.

Really?  You think all saying something different is more believable? OK does take all kinds as you say. However, they found time to play on words. Claiming they were 'checking' on the children regularly- quite obvious this was not the case. They failed to say it was a listening at the door  system not  an actual physical check. Maddie could have been missing for a couple of hours before the alarm was raised...

.... ...... on that visit another anomaly he can't recall why he was there? WTF.

If you have a gang employed in some nefarious activity ... it is only respectful to law enforcement to get the alibis straight, word perfect and bombproof.
Mr hall and others seem to miss that elementary point in its entirety.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #201 on: February 27, 2016, 09:41:56 AM »
1. I just used 'Google' and searched 'Weather''Reports''Algarve'. You can do the same. You'll find exactly what I did all along the Algarve: Sat/Sun: WARM, SUNNY >>> Mon/Tues/Weds/Thurs: COOLER, LOTS OF CLOUD, WINDIER, SHOWERS

2. There is a conflict of evidence on this point, and I guess that Richard, the same as anyone else, has to decide which evidence to prefer. This statement is pretty clear:

Extract from the statement of Sarah Elizabeth Williamson

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SARA-ELIZABETH-WILLIAMSON.htm

She says that the twins were generally left at the creche at 09.00 and that the parents dropped them off before leaving Madeleine in her classroom. Then between 12.00 and 12.30 the parents would pick up the twins until 15.00. Between 17.00 and 17.30 the parents would COLLECT THE TWINS FROM THE CRECHE.

Also, do a complete analysis of the drop-off and pick-up times of (a) the twins and (b) Madeleine that week. You'll find something very interesting

That statement seems confused:


"When the parents picked up the twins at lunch time, all the children were together in the same place so they picked up Madeleine as well."


Is there any other statement that says that the children of both crèches were in the same location for collection at lunchtime? It was at high tea that all the children were in the same place - the Tapas restaurant.

High tea was a crèche activity in the sense that the children were still under the supervision of the crèche nannies until the parents signed them out.

Unless there is a time warp running through the middle of PdL, how could parents collect their kids at the crèche HQs at around 17:30 pm when they were at the Tapas having their high tea from 17:00 to 17:30?


Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #202 on: February 27, 2016, 10:26:26 AM »
It was high tea. Gerry collected the twins at 4:45 and Madeleine came with her group to the tapas eating area. Kate went running. Amaral was correct - Madeleine was alive at 5:30pm on 3 May.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2016, 10:29:44 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #203 on: February 27, 2016, 11:06:26 AM »
It was high tea. Gerry collected the twins at 4:45 and Madeleine came with her group to the tapas eating area. Kate went running. Amaral was correct - Madeleine was alive at 5:30pm on 3 May.

Why would Gerry (or any other parent collecting their own toddlers) have collected the twins from the crèche when the nannies were there to escort the toddlers to the Tapas, which was the standard end-of-afternoon meeting place?

However muddled some of the early statements are, I can find nothing to indicate that anyone had a doubt as to her potential absence from somewhere she should have been.

If someone (anyone who knew her or would have recognised her) had said "Well, that's odd. She was supposed to have been here with us at x time, but wasn't", then that might have been a red flag to check out. I can find no such doubts in the files.

Some of the initial statements are confusing and a bit muddled at times. The second round of interviews was more thorough with more potential misunderstandings clarified.

But some people insist on cherry-picking those initial statements as if they had been thorough interviews without any language barriers, but with officers trained to investigate child disappearances and with adequate resources. This wasn't the case.

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #204 on: February 27, 2016, 01:13:54 PM »



@ Brietta
Hat off to you for making the attempt ... I did try ... but within three or four minutes I was in a sound sleep.  Good luck with it.


i find it hard to believe ...you have not watched the film [human nature and all that]...what i do find odd though is no one has challenged anything R H ..has shown to prove him wrong

it seems it is simpler for you and others to say you haven't seen it ...rather than disagree with what he has shown because you cant

the credibility of the film is there ....i was so disturbed after watching the end of part four ...even i think now there is something more sinister ...it is very powerful...even to the point were i cant as yet go to far into it

why was the last photo.......given three weeks later...[was it to get the date changed]..it was in the camera fgs

why was the pic they gave to police ....eighteen months old ...when they had up to date ones as maddie was.....

why was the mccs never seen as a family of five...after the 29th

was maddie mistook for lilly ...who looked very similar

why did the mccs along with the ...abduction...insist it was by a  ring 'pedophile ring[what was the reason for that]

just a couple of things to think about....
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Brietta

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #205 on: February 27, 2016, 01:34:58 PM »


@ Brietta
Hat off to you for making the attempt ... I did try ... but within three or four minutes I was in a sound sleep.  Good luck with it.


i find it hard to believe ...you have not watched the film [human nature and all that]...what i do find odd though is no one has challenged anything R H ..has shown to prove him wrong

it seems it is simpler for you and others to say you haven't seen it ...rather than disagree with what he has shown because you cant

the credibility of the film is there ....i was so disturbed after watching the end of part four ...even i think now there is something more sinister ...it is very powerful...even to the point were i cant as yet go to far into it

why was the last photo.......given three weeks later...[was it to get the date changed]..it was in the camera fgs

why was the pic they gave to police ....eighteen months old ...when they had up to date ones as maddie was.....

why was the mccs never seen as a family of five...after the 29th

was maddie mistook for lilly ...who looked very similar

why did the mccs along with the ...abduction...insist it was by a  ring 'pedophile ring[what was the reason for that]

just a couple of things to think about....

May I assure you that when I say I have not watched Richard Hall's oeuvres ... I mean exactly that ... I have not watched; the latest because it induced sleep the previous because I found it an impossibility to waste precious time on arrant nonsense, despite a try.

If you are content to have your intelligence insulted, that's fine; but it is not for me.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #206 on: February 27, 2016, 01:41:36 PM »
I actually went through the first episode of the latest series.

Much of it was based on a "misunderstanding" of how the crèche arrangements worked.

Did Richard Hall do his own research, or was he relying on other so-called "researchers"?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #207 on: February 27, 2016, 01:42:22 PM »


@ Brietta
Hat off to you for making the attempt ... I did try ... but within three or four minutes I was in a sound sleep.  Good luck with it.


i find it hard to believe ...you have not watched the film [human nature and all that]...what i do find odd though is no one has challenged anything R H ..has shown to prove him wrong

it seems it is simpler for you and others to say you haven't seen it ...rather than disagree with what he has shown because you cant

the credibility of the film is there ....i was so disturbed after watching the end of part four ...even i think now there is something more sinister ...it is very powerful...even to the point were i cant as yet go to far into it

why was the last photo.......given three weeks later...[was it to get the date changed]..it was in the camera fgs

why was the pic they gave to police ....eighteen months old ...when they had up to date ones as maddie was.....

why was the mccs never seen as a family of five...after the 29th

was maddie mistook for lilly ...who looked very similar

why did the mccs along with the ...abduction...insist it was by a  ring 'pedophile ring[what was the reason for that]

just a couple of things to think about....

I have challenged and proved him wrong...in his introduction he says the cadaver dog alerted to the previous presence of a dead body...that is a lie......I didn't bother with anything else...

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #208 on: February 27, 2016, 01:49:30 PM »


@ Brietta
Hat off to you for making the attempt ... I did try ... but within three or four minutes I was in a sound sleep.  Good luck with it.


i find it hard to believe ...you have not watched the film [human nature and all that]...what i do find odd though is no one has challenged anything R H ..has shown to prove him wrong

it seems it is simpler for you and others to say you haven't seen it ...rather than disagree with what he has shown because you cant

the credibility of the film is there ....i was so disturbed after watching the end of part four ...even i think now there is something more sinister ...it is very powerful...even to the point were i cant as yet go to far into it

why was the last photo.......given three weeks later...[was it to get the date changed]..it was in the camera fgs

why was the pic they gave to police ....eighteen months old ...when they had up to date ones as maddie was.....

why was the mccs never seen as a family of five...after the 29th

was maddie mistook for lilly ...who looked very similar

why did the mccs along with the ...abduction...insist it was by a  ring 'pedophile ring[what was the reason for that]

just a couple of things to think about....

I have indeed watched the whole of the 4 film sequence.   

In summary - in order for his take on this case to be credible you would need to believe there is a huge international consipracy to dupe the world population by a small cabal of wealthy, ruthless and influential people,   aided and abetted by the "MSM".   

The same view is rehearsed in other areas he covers in his various films and writings - 9/11,7/7, aliens etc. 

You may be convinced of this viewpoint, in which case good luck.  I am not. 



Offline pegasus

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #209 on: February 27, 2016, 03:09:07 PM »
A huge mistake of this film is going down the falsified creche records route. Absolutely wrong. Completely the wrong direction.