Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb

[xtina]

I'm sure I read somewhere that Kate was  more interested in photography than was Gerry, so it is only to be expected that there might be few pictures of her. However, it is passing strange that there appear to be no photo's of her husband displaying his prowess on the tennis court.

the camera also took pride of place on the table in the mccs apartment......strange how it was not used ...

k mcc ran back for it to take the tennis photo..not sure if maddie had to stand there holding ..them balls

the mccs were not credably seen any where after the sunday .....even eating alone when the others were having picnics at Payne's apartment ...yet Payne was there friend

maddie left in the creche when the rest were on the beach ....even Elle was took out ...maddies best friend ...yet that was the best day of maddies life according to k mcc

[pathfinder73]

the camera also took pride of place on the table in the mccs apartment......strange how it was not used ...

k mcc ran back for it to take the tennis photo..not sure if maddie had to stand there holding ..them balls

the mccs were not credably seen any where after the sunday .....even eating alone when the others were having picnics at Payne's apartment ...yet Payne was there friend

maddie left in the creche when the rest were on the beach ....even Elle was took out ...maddies best friend ...yet that was the best day of maddies life according to k mcc

There is a contradiction about who took the photo. Rachel said it was Jane and her day was way out.

[jassi]

the camera also took pride of place on the table in the mccs apartment......strange how it was not used ...

k mcc ran back for it to take the tennis photo..not sure if maddie had to stand there holding ..them balls

the mccs were not credably seen any where after the sunday .....even eating alone when the others were having picnics at Payne's apartment ...yet Payne was there friend

maddie left in the creche when the rest were on the beach ....even Elle was took out ...maddies best friend ...yet that was the best day of maddies life according to k mcc

If that was true, then the rest of her life must have been pretty poor.

[Carana]

We have a statement from a cleaner who saw all members of the McCann family on the Sunday lunchtime. It is a clear, detailed statement.

Leaving aside the testimony of Catriona Baker, you refer to Madeleine 'being seen by many nannies'.

Could you please give a link to a nanny statement that week (apart from Cat Baker) which in your view gives us the clearest possible evidence of Madeleine being alive after Sunday.

Did you see my (repeated) question about the Tapas cook who saw her at high tea on 3 May? She couldn't have mistaken her for Ella as Ella had gone to the Paraiso, and the only two other children of that age group were boys.

[jassi]

There is a contradiction about who took the photo. Rachel said it was Jane and her day was way out.

Indeed, just another of these little statements that add to the confusion.

[blonk]

They are easy to find - introducing herself as Maddie. Here's the tennis instructor confirming Madeleine alive on Tuesday.

"Madeleine, it being that the child also had a class, on Tuesday, 1 May (10-11h00), that class [in which] she was among a group of children was conducted by the deponent."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Georgina_Jackson.htm

Thank you. I agree that this is evidence.

How persuasive it is, is another matter entirely.

Does she say she instructed the children to go to another court to collect up all the tennis balls used by the adults? - No.

How likely is it that adults could have been hitting adult tennis balls at speeds of 100 mph or more on the tennis court right next to where the children were playing mini-tennis?

Is there any personal recollection of how Madeleine did in the mini-tennis session? - No.

[pathfinder73]

I don't like dictators who can't stand alternative views that don't abide with barmy theories .

[Erngath]

Speculation.

'Perhaps'.

Not evidence

LOL. Tell that to Richard D Hall.

[Mr Gray]

Thank you. I agree that this is evidence.

How persuasive it is, is another matter entirely.

Does she say she instructed the children to go to another court to collect up all the tennis balls used by the adults? - No.

How likely is it that adults could have been hitting adult tennis balls at speeds of 100 mph or more on the tennis court right next to where the children were playing mini-tennis?

Is there any personal recollection of how Madeleine did in the mini-tennis session? - No.

what defence do you have to this by hall....


The past presence of a human corpse was detected in the McCanns’ apartment and in many other places associated with the McCanns by highly trained police sniffer dogs.

[xtina]

Are you suggesting that the Tapas cook wasn't telling the truth either?
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6981.msg312289#msg312289

Maria M A Jose - saw MBM 4.30pm on 3rd May, having tea at the restaurant. - Was mistaken and probably saw Lilly at the creche next to the Tapas


after seeing pictures of the missing child on television, that she realised who the girl was, referring to her as Madeleine (the name used by the journalists) remembering only at that moment that she had seen her during the meals provided to the children at the crèche, and which take place at the restaurant where she works and during arrivals at the crèche where Madeleine spent the day, located immediately next to the restaurant.the last time she saw Madeleine was at approximately 16.30 on 3rd May 2007 when she was having dinner with the other children in their part of the restaurant, as she did each day of that week

Another example of mistakenly thinking that one of the other tapas children was maddie

[pathfinder73]

Maria M A Jose - saw MBM 4.30pm on 3rd May, having tea at the restaurant. - Was mistaken and probably saw Lilly at the creche next to the Tapas


after seeing pictures of the missing child on television, that she realised who the girl was, referring to her as Madeleine (the name used by the journalists) remembering only at that moment that she had seen her during the meals provided to the children at the crèche, and which take place at the restaurant where she works and during arrivals at the crèche where Madeleine spent the day, located immediately next to the restaurant.the last time she saw Madeleine was at approximately 16.30 on 3rd May 2007 when she was having dinner with the other children in their part of the restaurant, as she did each day of that week

Another example of mistakenly thinking that one of the other tapas children was maddie

Madeleine had high tea at the Tapas eating area every night. They came at 4:45 to 5:30. The parents would meet them so there is nothing strange about Tapas staff seeing her at around that time.

"With regard to the facts being investigated, she says that in brief moments and in a formal manner (just saying "hello" and "goodbye") she had contact with Madeleine, explaining that she did not belong to her group, these contacts took place when the children were eating, as all the children ate together in the Tapas at the same time."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JACQUELINE_WILLIAMS.htm

[Carana]

Maria M A Jose - saw MBM 4.30pm on 3rd May, having tea at the restaurant. - Was mistaken and probably saw Lilly at the creche next to the Tapas


after seeing pictures of the missing child on television, that she realised who the girl was, referring to her as Madeleine (the name used by the journalists) remembering only at that moment that she had seen her during the meals provided to the children at the crèche, and which take place at the restaurant where she works and during arrivals at the crèche where Madeleine spent the day, located immediately next to the restaurant.the last time she saw Madeleine was at approximately 16.30 on 3rd May 2007 when she was having dinner with the other children in their part of the restaurant, as she did each day of that week

Another example of mistakenly thinking that one of the other tapas children was maddie

Lilly? How could the cook have mistaken Lilly for Madeleine? Did you mean Ella?

Which other girl could she have mistaken her for? Ella went to the Paraiso with the T7.

[slartibartfast]

Thank you. I agree that this is evidence.

How persuasive it is, is another matter entirely.

Does she say she instructed the children to go to another court to collect up all the tennis balls used by the adults? - No.

How likely is it that adults could have been hitting adult tennis balls at speeds of 100 mph or more on the tennis court right next to where the children were playing mini-tennis?

Is there any personal recollection of how Madeleine did in the mini-tennis session? - No.

Sort of Sam Peckinpah's 'Salad Days'.

[lordpookles]

Maddie was abducted by a UFO that night. Now prove me wrong. God exists. Now prove me wrong. Faries exist. Now prove me wrong. Middle Earth exists somewhere up in the night sky. Now prove me wrong is how this argument goes...

yadayadayada. You need to provide proof Sir Blonk. You haven't - where is your proof? This is lead hat with layer of plutonium time(just in case you want blow up your own head!).

Some theories do not need to be exhaustively researched, because logic and probability can be used to narrow the search. You bring up some interesting points like for instance the photos that the McCanns provided on a DVD, but really this is the job the police to go and get this stuff if they are suspects or believe the info could be useful - it is not the McCanns job. Like for instance in David Payne's rog when he asks for the mobile phones and ensures he will get them. How do you make the jump from cherry picked photos provided to PJ at the start of the investigation when they were not suspects I might add to a week long alibi for Madeliene?

[Eleanor]

It's the same old argument.  If people don't deny it then it must be true.