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Offline pegasus

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #720 on: March 04, 2016, 09:05:11 PM »
(snip)... dont appear anywhere, so its anyones guess how they got into the Ocean Club ...(snip)
That's easy, probably booked by the other adult Merc.

Offline pegasus

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #721 on: March 04, 2016, 09:13:20 PM »
because as you have told us..in portugal it was the mccanns what dunnit
That doesn't explain the non-presence of smithman on the official portuguese language webpages of a multi-million operation Dave.

Offline misty

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #722 on: March 04, 2016, 09:29:08 PM »
See pages 615-638 at the end of this page


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS_BOOKING.htm

List of all holidaymakers from various dates up to two weeks before and two or more after)  with either M Warner or T Cook or there as owners of the properties (like the Moyes, who are there on page 633)

The Boyds dont appear anywhere, so its anyones guess how they got into the Ocean Club, perhaps as guests of a private owner? They apparently had been spotted in the "playground picture" said to be taken on 2 May (see pamalams site and search for Boyd)

Eta here you go:





Thank you for that. I now see the Moyes name on the guest list.
Perhaps the booking was in the name of the older lady pictured holding the baby.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #723 on: March 04, 2016, 09:49:30 PM »

Thank you for that. I now see the Moyes name on the guest list.
Perhaps the booking was in the name of the older lady pictured holding the baby.

There were rumours of people being in apartments but not being known about. Not all the apartments were under the Ocean Club either. Whether it was possible to still use the facilities I don't know.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #724 on: March 04, 2016, 09:55:36 PM »
Good question. No Boyds at the Ocean Club that week as far as I can see.

I read the Boyd's are in this photo. If so, it's proof they were there.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #725 on: March 04, 2016, 09:59:45 PM »

(snip)...Perhaps the booking was in the name of the older lady ...
Yes that is what I meant, different surname, the 3+2 booking is possible to find but there's no point.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #726 on: March 04, 2016, 10:10:20 PM »
I read the Boyd's are in this photo. If so, it's proof they were there.



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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #727 on: March 04, 2016, 10:11:52 PM »
There are some nice clouds in it ; top left between the trees  ?{)(**

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #728 on: March 07, 2016, 10:02:24 AM »
what the Boyd's have done is obviously sensationalised a story for a magazine .....seriously whizzing up and down the water slide ...is that suppose to mean they were playing in the water .....in k mcc book [page 60] she mentions nothing of what Boyd's say ...only that it rained and they were only at park for an hour

Boyd's say
 kmcc was relaxed on a sun lounger ...maddie was wearing a sun hat...a little pink top playing in the sun with other children

what she has described ...playing football for an hour ...playing round the pool playing an the water slide...seems like most of the afternoon

yet when all this was happening after an hour ....maddie was at the creche...so what is wrong ...Boyd's/creche records

or it could have been the sunday the Boyd's were talking about ...there is no proof it was the Wednesday ..they day before maddie disappeared
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

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Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #729 on: March 07, 2016, 03:25:26 PM »
Quite.

Carana wrote:

QUOTE

Whoever posted notes (Albym?) seems to have noted quite a few photos of Madeleine.

The pink tracksuit one is noted as being taken on 2 May, but I'm not sure where that information came from.

The "playground man" pic was taken that day, according to Bruno Press.
http://www.brunopress.nl/bin/Brunopress.dll/go?a=disp&t=sr-loadersearch.html&searchtext=madeleine+mccann+2007

(p. 8 - ref 01256702 and 01256698)

If so, there must have been a bit of sunshine poking through at some point on Wed pm.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOLIDAY-PHOTOS-LIST.htm

UNQUOTE

There is absolutely overwhelming evidence that these three photographs were taken late afternoon, Saturday 28th April:

1) Playground photo - Madeleine playing with Madeleine
2) and 3) Madeleine by the Wendy House.

As xtina says, we have the similarities of clothing worn by three people in shot with what they were wearing in the plane journey earlier that day. Plus the scenes, shadows, weather etc. are all wholly consistent with what the McCanns say about their first day (NOTE: Apart from Madeleine allegedly jumping straight into a cold pool).

That only leaves us with two other highly disputed photos of Madelene that week:

1. The Last Photo
2. The Tennis Balls Photo.

Referring back to Carana's post:

A. Albym's note about the photos being on Wednesday is clearly wrong, probably based on something he read elsewhere

B. The Bruno Press were also clearly wrong

C. So was First Magazine wrong to publish false claims by the Boyds that their boy Louie was 'playing football with Madeleine for over an hour', they were whizzing down the waterslide together [there was no waterslide there and Wednesday was cold and rainy anyway]m and that Mrs Boyd and Kate had a chat together.

Putting 2 and 2 together and making 4, it looks as though very early on someone was pushing false information about these three Saturday photos into the media       

Sorry, this doesn't make any sense to me.

Quote Blonk:

There is absolutely overwhelming evidence that these three photographs were taken late afternoon, Saturday 28th April:

1) Playground photo - Madeleine playing with Madeleine

Unquote Blonk.

Which 3 photos?

And what on earth is "Madeleine playing with Madeleine" supposed to mean?








Offline blonk

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #730 on: March 07, 2016, 03:50:26 PM »
Sorry, this doesn't make any sense to me.

Quote Blonk:

There is absolutely overwhelming evidence that these three photographs were taken late afternoon, Saturday 28th April:

1) Playground photo - Madeleine playing with Madeleine

Unquote Blonk.

Which 3 photos?

And what on earth is "Madeleine playing with Madeleine" supposed to mean?

Should be "Gerry McCann playing with Madeleine". The three photos are:

The playground photo - sun shining

The two by the Wendy House - probably taken some time after the playground as some clouds were bubbling up over the town late afternoon (see background of playground photo).

'Last Photo' and 'Tennis Balls Phot both debatable.

None more of Madeleine that week ever shown 

Offline blonk

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #731 on: March 07, 2016, 03:52:56 PM »
What the Boyd's have done is obviously sensationalised a story for a magazine

Or, perhaps, utterly fabricated it

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #732 on: March 07, 2016, 03:57:54 PM »
Should be "Gerry McCann playing with Madeleine". The three photos are:

The playground photo - sun shining

The two by the Wendy House - probably taken some time after the playground as some clouds were bubbling up over the town late afternoon (see background of playground photo).

'Last Photo' and 'Tennis Balls Phot both debatable.

None more of Madeleine that week ever shown

One point at a time.


Blonk quote: The playground photo - sun shining


Unquote

When was this photo supposed to have been taken, according to Hall and his researchers?
« Last Edit: March 07, 2016, 04:01:00 PM by Carana »

Offline misty

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #733 on: March 07, 2016, 04:12:39 PM »
Or, perhaps, utterly fabricated it

The magazine article was published 19/5/2007. The Boyds describe Madeleine's pink top & sun hat, as seen in the last photo.
The last photo was not released until 24/5/2007.
I'm not quite sure how the Boyds could have conspired to fabricate their story.

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #734 on: March 07, 2016, 04:29:55 PM »
When was that playground photo taken?