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Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #885 on: March 12, 2016, 02:58:32 PM »
Granted these were not "little kids" but are examples of who would do what and how when they shouldn't.
Lyme Bay early 1990s
Glenridding Beck incident of early 2000s ?

I'd have to Google what you are referring to, so no comment on that for the moment.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #886 on: March 12, 2016, 03:31:25 PM »
It's not just a matter of dry weather, IMO. Who would risk taking little kids out in anything more than calm sea conditions?

And dive and find pool time between 3:30 and 4:00 pm. That would seem odd if there had been a cold wind for the kids.



I'm more interested in the fact that the childcare workers were so vague and inaccurate about what they did that week. They were not on holiday, they were paid workers with responsibility for other people's young children.

They used the indoor pool for water based activities Carana.
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Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #887 on: March 12, 2016, 03:40:36 PM »
I'm more interested in the fact that the childcare workers were so vague and inaccurate about what they did that week. They were not on holiday, they were paid workers with responsibility for other people's young children.

They used the indoor pool for water based activities Carana.

Where was the indoor pool?

Offline Benice

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #888 on: March 12, 2016, 04:36:45 PM »
ANSWER:  Amaral had less than 5 months to figure things out, was booted out soon after he made the McCanns arguidos, and was then replaced by a government puppet. The 'armchair detectives', who include former senior police officers, have by contrast had eight years and ten months to sift, search for, find and analyse a whole lot more evidence and try and work out what really happened to Madeleine McCann.


Armchair detectives only have access to SOME of the evidence/information available to SY and have to rely on statements translated by amateurs.  They have no ability to interview or reinterview anyone connected to the case, have no means of accessing  information which only the police can access  - and the vast majority have no experience whatsoever in detective work. .

Any reasonably intelligent person can easily see how that must put armchair detectives at a major disadvantage to professional detectives who do have ALL the available information to hand, who have professionally translated files, the ability to make background checks etc and to actually interview people in person if necessary.   And who also have years of experience in detective work under their belts.     

Anyone who thinks that armchair detectives are equally or even better placed to solve this case than the professional police officers of two countries is seriously deluding themselves IMO.


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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #889 on: March 12, 2016, 04:50:35 PM »

Armchair detectives only have access to SOME of the evidence/information available to SY and have to rely on statements translated by amateurs.  They have no ability to interview or reinterview anyone connected to the case, have no means of accessing  information which only the police can access  - and the vast majority have no experience whatsoever in detective work. .

Any reasonably intelligent person can easily see how that must put armchair detectives at a major disadvantage to professional detectives who do have ALL the available information to hand, who have professionally translated files, the ability to make background checks etc and to actually interview people in person if necessary.   And who also have years of experience in detective work under their belts.     

Anyone who thinks that armchair detectives are equally or even better placed to solve this case than the professional police officers of two countries is seriously deluding themselves IMO.

All other considerations being equal that about sums it up. We can however turn it into a good game of conjecture.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #890 on: March 12, 2016, 04:53:42 PM »
Where was the indoor pool?
It is about 30m north of the OC 24hr reception, in the same block.  It is recognisable by the fact that it has glass all round the south aspect.  It should turn up on StreetView.
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Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #891 on: March 12, 2016, 05:08:50 PM »
It is about 30m north of the OC 24hr reception, in the same block.  It is recognisable by the fact that it has glass all round the south aspect.  It should turn up on StreetView.

Ok. Thanks.  8((()*/ If ever there is any confirmation of where that took place (indoors or outdoors).

What about the mini-sail moved from Wednesday to the Thursday morning?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #892 on: March 12, 2016, 07:39:37 PM »
Ok. Thanks.  8((()*/ If ever there is any confirmation of where that took place (indoors or outdoors).

What about the mini-sail moved from Wednesday to the Thursday morning?
Mini-sail was outdoors, down at the beach.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #893 on: March 12, 2016, 08:10:39 PM »
Ok. Thanks.  8((()*/ If ever there is any confirmation of where that took place (indoors or outdoors).

What about the mini-sail moved from Wednesday to the Thursday morning?

 They would do various activities, such as going to the indoor pool at the resort, they would go to the tennis court, situated outside near to the Tapas restaurant (3), they would got to the beach (outside), they would paint and play (inside the resort).
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Offline pegasus

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« Reply #894 on: March 12, 2016, 08:12:53 PM »
(snip) .Anyone who thinks that armchair detectives are equally or even better placed to solve this case than the professional police officers of two countries is seriously deluding themselves IMO.
If an armchair detective abandons the silly preconditioned assumptions that police tend to make, and instead studies past cases, it's quite possible that an amateur could see the solution when police can't.

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #895 on: March 12, 2016, 08:26:49 PM »
What's the significance of the activities highlighted in yellow?

Offline Carana

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« Reply #896 on: March 12, 2016, 08:30:34 PM »
If an armchair detective abandons the silly preconditioned assumptions that police tend to make, and instead studies past cases, it's quite possible that an amateur could see the solution when police can't.

Past cases from when, where and involving whom?


Offline pegasus

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #897 on: March 12, 2016, 09:09:55 PM »
What's the significance of the activities highlighted in yellow?
Yellow = at beach

Offline pegasus

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #898 on: March 12, 2016, 09:24:45 PM »
Past cases from when, where and involving whom?
What cases to consider? Solved missing child cases of various types (found alive , or dead). Also occultation of adult cases. Cases involving covert transportation (just that last category alone rules out the JT and Smith sightings).

Offline G-Unit

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #899 on: March 12, 2016, 10:27:11 PM »
Yellow = at beach

Olympics grass time? Doesn't sound like a beach to me if grass is involved. The activities seem to consist of grass time, beach play and pool time. Everything else is room-based, I assume, except the trip to buy ice cream and the mini sail. The mini tennis is described as grass time.
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