Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb

[Benice]

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And to what extent has the content been seriously challenged during the 75 pages this thread has been going?

Only three significant challenges have been made so far AFAIK.

These were as follows:

1) He was allegedly wrong to deny that there was a 'high tea' at the Tapas restaurant every day at around 5pm

2) He was allegedly wrong to draw the inference he did from mass of contradictions about the alleged presence of Madeleine at the alleged high tea on the Thursday, and

2) He was alleged wrong to rely too much on the weather charts because the Last Photo could have been taken during a brief sunny spell.

On none of these issues has he been 'holed below the water line, so to speak, while and on the weather issue, the case made against him looks weak.                           

As 'the dogs' are regarded by many sceptics to be a major factor in this case - I'm surprised you have made no mention of the 'significant challenge' to RH's  following claim a -  which according to Martin Grime and Mark Harrison is not the case - because it is not a fact that when a dog alerts   - it proves a human corpse must have been present at some time at that place.

Quote from RH

The past presence of a human corpse was detected in the McCanns’ apartment and in many other places associated with the McCanns by highly trained police sniffer dogs.
Unquote

IMO Either RH was misinformed by others or he misunderstood the evidence in the files himself.   Either way his statement is false and completely misleading  - and has been shown up to be just that on this forum.

In fact on that particular subject I would say not just ''holed below the water line''- but sunk without trace.

[xtina]

This thread was scotched (as a 'debate') as early as the 5th post of the first page.

Yet, 75 pages later ....

An absolute disgrace and a stain on this board.

how dare you mock my thread 

the thing that is a disgrace here is your obvious ...agenda ...

the parents have to be be believed ....at any price

well its not as simple as that and if you feel it is..... tough ..

you should really get over yourself ..you care more for mccs...not what happened to maddie ...that is a disgrace because you do not know maddie was abducted ...or care it seems

nothing is set in stone in this case .....

Rh ...is not an abduction believer....and is putting his case forward ....and the reasons why ...he covers a great deal of things ...to show ...the reasons how the abduction one way or another ...is not the case....

everyone will not agree with his findings ....but you cannot knock him for trying because he is in a position to do some thing and has....he has made several claims over the years .....and no one has challenged him ..or sued him ...to prove him wrong ...

maybe things for some does not add up ..in what R H puts across..but nothing in this case does ....

least of all the abduction.............

as for the mccs ....they sowed the seed in the first place ....they have to live with that choice

maddie had no choice .....and at this time ...there is no proof she was abducted ....so what did happen to her...

you would think ....that would be the thing everyone wanted to know ...the truth...as yet no one knows ..what the truth is ...

up until now .....the majority ...has been censord/covered up of what we were told in UK ....thank god for R H ...and many  others ....who have not give up on what happened to Maddie....the real victim in all of this

[xtina]

His assertion that Madeleine 'vanished' sometime on the Sunday has been blown out of the water by the members and exposed for the libellous nonsense it is.

no ...nothing has been exposed as false nonsense ...that is a false statement to make ....

and if you think ...he is libellouse ....up to date nothing has been done about it ....so that is misleading also

as you canot prove he is...he has not been challenged on anything ....has he ....apart from those ...who don't want to see the woods for the trees....on this forum

[Lace]

no ...nothing has been exposed as false nonsense ...that is a false statement to make ....

and if you think ...he is libellouse ....up to date nothing has been done about it ....so that is misleading also

as you canot prove he is...he has not been challenged on anything ....has he ....apart from those ...who don't want to see the woods for the trees....on this forum

Have you ever wondered that the reason 'nothing has been done'  about RH's videos is because there is a Police Investigation still in progress and the McCann's don't want any distraction from that?

[stephen25000]

Have you ever wondered that the reason 'nothing has been done'  about RH's videos is because there is a Police Investigation still in progress and the McCann's don't want any distraction from that?

That's hardly an excuse.

[Eleanor]

Just because nothing is done about something doesn't mean it is true.  Haven't we been here before, prior to a certain Court Case?

This is a very dodgy argument.

[Erngath]

His views, website, videos, talks, debates are all so bizarre and as far as the GBP are concerned he is totally unknown.
He is unimportant and the fact that the abduction is being investigated by both police forces will be their main focus, not some unbeknown conspiracy theorist.

[Brietta]

how dare you mock my thread 

the thing that is a disgrace here is your obvious ...agenda ...

the parents have to be be believed ....at any price

well its not as simple as that and if you feel it is..... tough ..

you should really get over yourself ..you care more for mccs...not what happened to maddie ...that is a disgrace because you do not know maddie was abducted ...or care it seems

nothing is set in stone in this case .....

Rh ...is not an abduction believer....and is putting his case forward ....and the reasons why ...he covers a great deal of things ...to show ...the reasons how the abduction one way or another ...is not the case....

everyone will not agree with his findings ....but you cannot knock him for trying because he is in a position to do some thing and has....he has made several claims over the years .....and no one has challenged him ..or sued him ...to prove him wrong ...

maybe things for some does not add up ..in what R H puts across..but nothing in this case does ....

least of all the abduction.............

as for the mccs ....they sowed the seed in the first place ....they have to live with that choice

maddie had no choice .....and at this time ...there is no proof she was abducted ....so what did happen to her...

you would think ....that would be the thing everyone wanted to know ...the truth...as yet no one knows ..what the truth is ...

up until now .....the majority ...has been censord/covered up of what we were told in UK ....thank god for R H ...and many  others ....who have not give up on what happened to Maddie....the real victim in all of this

You say, "the parents have to be be believed ....at any price"

Which is actually very short of the mark.  The evidence given by the many to the police is the all important factor.  That there has been a nine year campaign to dispute it flies in the face of common sense.

I find it risible that Richard Hall has subliminally suggested that the Policia Judicairia were so incompetent that they had failed to ascertain that Madeleine had been alive and well in the period between her arrival in Luz and when her mother found her missing from her bed.

It is such an elementary diligence for law enforcement that I find it breathtaking that he disputes it as he has. 

[xtina]

Have you ever wondered that the reason 'nothing has been done'  about RH's videos is because there is a Police Investigation still in progress and the McCann's don't want any distraction from that?

oh ...surly you can think up a better excuse than that [it hasn't bothered them other times]......

[xtina]

Just because nothing is done about something doesn't mean it is true.  Haven't we been here before, prior to a certain Court Case?

This is a very dodgy argument.

Its ....a very dodgy case ....though isn't it

[xtina]

His views, website, videos, talks, debates are all so bizarre and as far as the GBP are concerned he is totally unknown.
He is unimportant and the fact that the abduction is being investigated by both police forces will be their main focus, not some unbeknown conspiracy theorist.

does it matter ...R H ....is unknown ...we know what we know ...don't we....

abduction not proved ...one way or another...as yet

[xtina]

You say, "the parents have to be be believed ....at any price"

Which is actually very short of the mark.  The evidence given by the many to the police is the all important factor.  That there has been a nine year campaign to dispute it flies in the face of common sense.

I find it risible that Richard Hall has subliminally suggested that the Policia Judicairia were so incompetent that they had failed to ascertain that Madeleine had been alive and well in the period between her arrival in Luz and when her mother found her missing from her bed.

It is such an elementary diligence for law enforcement that I find it breathtaking that he disputes it as he has.

whatever.....the excuses flow....but ....it was the mccs ...who are the incompetent ones....in the first place

[Eleanor]

Its ....a very dodgy case ....though isn't it

In your opinion.  But if you think everyone who doesn't sue is guilty you really don't understand the law.

[Alice Purjorick]

His assertion that Madeleine 'vanished' sometime on the Sunday has been blown out of the water by the members and exposed for the libellous nonsense it is.

Interestingly by "both sides" of the debate as it were.

[xtina]

In your opinion.  But if you think everyone who doesn't sue is guilty you really don't understand the law.

yes but we are talking about the mccs ...here ....arn't we ....you don't have to understand the law with them .....they think they are above it anyway...any one who says anything against them ....they sue ...