YOU were inconsistent with your recollection of what David Payne did when he visited Kate McCann, YOU said he sat down, he didn't. You didn't correct yourself either.
@ LaceI'm glad of an opportunity to re-visit the flaming contradictions between the accounts of, respectively, Dr David Payne and Dr Kate McCann, about an alleged visit claimed to have been made by the former to the latter at about 6.30pm on Thursday 3 May.
Actually, she styled herself Dr Kate Healy at that moment in time. But the next day, after she had reported Madeleine missing, she began to style herself Dr Kate
McCann. And now 'Mrs McCann'.
It's interesting that there is no real attempt by McCann-supporters on here to counteract the many blatant contradictions between the two rival accounts of that alleged visit. IIRC Richard Hall enumerated as many as 20 in his first Madeleine McCann film, some more obviously irreconcilable differences than others.
Instead, you've highlighted my claim in an earlier post that Payne 'sat down' on his visit. You are right, he didn't. I mis-remembered that bit. He gave such a detailed account of what he saw and thought about on that visit that I had thought he must have sat down.
But he didn't.
If he was ever there at that time, that is.
Looking again at this alleged visit of Dr Payne to G5A, I've had a look again at three relevant statements:
Dr Payne, Rogatory interview
So I walked back err from the tennis courts, err back to err you know Kate and Gerry's apartment and the time you know looking at, you know we've looked obviously at photographs since then and you know the time that we've got that I was you know going to Kate's about six thirty, err and I went into their apartment through the patio doors. The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas, you know they looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content and I said to Kate, you know it's a bit early for the you know, for the three of them to be going to bed, she said ah they've had such a great time, they're really tired and you know err so I say, you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour, but you know just to reinforce they were just so happy, you know seeing you know obviously Gerry wasn't there but they were just all, just so at peace and you know they looked like a family who'd had such a fantastic time and err yeah then I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he'd, he'd played enough tennis for that day and err was going back.
Kate McCann, 1st Statement, Friday May 4th, 2007
After this time, they take the children to the "Kids Club" until around 5/5.30pm, the time when the children eat in a bar under the watchful gaze of the parents. After the 5pm dinner, they give the children a bath, prepare them for the night and let them play for a while in a playground next to the tennis courts, still and always under parental supervision. At around 8pm, the children are put to bed until the following morning when the described routines start all over again. While the children are at the "Kids Club," the interviewee played tennis with her husband, went for walks, read or went "jogging."
Kate McCann, Thursday May 3rd 2007
Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went to bed at around 7.30. While the children were eating and looking at some books, Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes. After showering, at around 6:30/6:40PM and while she was getting dry, she heard somebody knocking at the veranda door. She wrapped herself in a towel and went to see who it was. This door was closed but not locked as Gerry had left by this door. She confirmed it was David Payne, because he called out and had opened the door slightly. David's visit was to help her to take the children to the recreation area. When David returned from the beach he was with Gerry at the tennis courts, and it was Gerry who asked him to help Kate with taking the children to the recreation area, which had been arranged but did not take place. David was at the apartment for around 30 seconds, he didn't actually enter the flat, he remained at the veranda door. According to her he then left for the tennis courts where Gerry was. The time was around 6:30-6:40PM.
After David left, Kate dressed and sat with the children..++++++++++++++++
In these statements, we notice these features:
1. That when first asked to give an account of the events of the evening of 3 May, Kate does not mention any visiit by Dr Payne.
2. I have not included Dr Payne's first interview. Neither does he mention this mythical visit to the McCanns' apartment.
3. When Kate McCann is interviewed on 6 September, this alleged visit is now mentioned for the first time.
4. I am unsure if any witness raised this visit any time before September.
5. Neither of the McCanns, nor Dr Fiona Payne, nor anyone else mentions this visit and the alleged reason for it. It is not mentioned on the McCann group's official neatly typewritten account of the evening's events, handed n on 10 May, which only begins at 8.30pm.
6. When David Payne, after being given a year to think about what to say in his Rogatory interview, gives his rambling statement, he is unable to give many details about what he saw and did - for example, he doesn't say what the children were doing when he saw them, he doesn't mention the fairly remarkable fact that Kate McCann was dressed only in a towel, and so on. But he is crystal clear on one point. He entered the apartment. Kate McCann is equally clear in her account of the incident: he did NOT enter the apartment. These two accounts cannot be reconciled. And that's only one of up to 20 contradictions.
7. The above SIX points, and the TWENTY contradictions between the two of them when they get round to talking about this alleged visit, are entirely consistent with a hypothesis that this alleged visit was invented, perhaps in an attempt to 'prove' that Madeleine had been seen alive by a third party earlier that evening, or perhaps for another reason.
