Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?

[Brietta]

I don't believe you. You have to get somebody away from the crime scene before the alarm is raised. So you go back from the alarm to find those opportunities. A checker or anyone seen close by is a suspect because they have the opportunity but anybody with unaccounted time becomes a prime suspect. If they can't account for their time then they'd better do it quick! Two checkers looked inside that room because of the door position. One didn't because he didn't know what position the door was supposed to be. Matt saw it half-open and so did Emma Knight.

"The twins were still asleep in the children's bedroom and the door was half open."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EMMA-LOUISE.htm

We've been through all this before.

The door positions were noted retrospectively.  You are using the benefit of hindsight which the checkers did not have at the time.

Therefore as a reason to doubt that Madeleine was abducted it does not even reach first base.

[Alfred R Jones]

It's totally amazing that the Changing Position Of The Door doesn't merit a mention in the PJ or the AG's final report, considering how hugely significant it now appears to be.

[jassi]

It's totally amazing that the Changing Position Of The Door doesn't merit a mention in the PJ or the AG's final report, considering how hugely significant it now appears to be.

Down to police incompetence, innit.

[Alfred R Jones]

Down to police incompetence, innit.

Is it?  I thought it was more about armchair defectives making something out of nothing.

[stephen25000]

As members of the public they wouldn't have been witness to anything going on in 5a.

No, not inside.

They did see however see the press intrusion in the area following May the 3 rd, which by their account with quite a few people going home early.

Some interesting second hand comments about the evening of the 2 nd May as well.

[Alice Purjorick]

HOLMES employs computational intelligence. 

The methods used are close to the human’s way of reasoning, i.e. it uses non exact and non-complete knowledge, and it is able to produce control actions in an adaptive way. CI therefore uses a combination of 5 main complementary techniques.[1] The fuzzy logic which enables the computer to understand natural language,[2][3] artificial neural networks which permits the system to learn experiential data by operating like the biological one, evolutionary computing which is based on the process of natural selection, learning theory, and probabilistic methods which helps dealing with uncertainty imprecision.[1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_intelligence

So perhaps a little more sophisticated than Alice"s ZX Spectrum.

Do you understand what you have just posted Alf ?. If so put it in simple English there's a good chap I am an ignoramus.

[pathfinder73]

Is it?  I thought it was more about armchair defectives making something out of nothing.

That door made them look inside the bedroom so it's very important. Two were involved and I know who and how it was done. This was planned before anybody arrived at the table that night.

[Alfred R Jones]

Do you understand what you have just posted Alf ?. If so put it in simple English there's a good chap I am an ignoramus.

I couldn't put it any better or plainer that what was written in the post I quoted.  What's your problem?  You've highlighted the word "perhaps" - do you need me to explain that? 

[Alfred R Jones]

That door made them look inside the bedroom so it's very important. Two were involved and I know who and how it was done. This was planned before anybody arrived at the table that night.

Fascinating.  I do hope you've communicated your incredible knowledge to Ms Wall.

[Mr Gray]

No, not inside.

They did see however see the press intrusion in the area following May the 3 rd, which by their account with quite a few people going home early.

Some interesting second hand comments about the evening of the 2 nd May as well.

And its taken you how many years before you have mentioned this on  a forum....

[Alice Purjorick]

I couldn't put it any better or plainer that what was written in the post I quoted.  What's your problem?  You've highlighted the word "perhaps" - do you need me to explain that?

Coo coo daddy-o; message received and understood.

[G-Unit]

The abductor would have heard the patio doors opening,   or he could have had an accomplice who warned him.

Matt did say the room seemed light he thought it was because the moon was out,   would he be looking to see if the window was open.   It seems to me he just glanced in quickly and left.

If he was in the children's bedroom and heard the patio doors sliding where could he hide? If he exited the bedroom he would have been seen. How would an accomplice warn him? By phone? shouting? Matt was there long enough to see the twins breathing (one of them he saw breathing was in a cot with a solid end). He described the colour of the closed curtains.

[G-Unit]

It's totally amazing that the Changing Position Of The Door doesn't merit a mention in the PJ or the AG's final report, considering how hugely significant it now appears to be.

The moving door was highlighted by the McCanns, no-one else made a big thing out of it.

[slartibartfast]

Coo coo daddy-o; message received and understood.

Did someone shout bingo...

[pathfinder73]

Look at their website:

http://findmadeleine.com/campaigns/unidentified_people.html



"These two pictures show a man carrying a child away from the family's apartment. This sighting was seen by a witness at 21:15 on the evening of Thursday, May 3rd, 2007.

Based or more recent information, the Metropolitan Police now believe this man may represent a guest at the Ocean Club who was carrying his daughter back to their apartment. However as it is not possible to be certain that these two men are actually the same person, if you have seen this man in the pictures or suspect who it may be, please contact the Metropolitan Police's OPERATION GRANGE"

They will never drop the patsy to rule sombody out of the Smithman sighting.