Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?

[Eleanor]

i have no memories from being  3    most people dont because the human brain  develops  most  real  memories after    5  or  6    so  maddie wouldnt    remmeber anything at all if she  was   alive

I think she might.  I certainly remember odd things from being three years old, but only pertinent when circumstances arise.  I suppose that this depends on the quality of one's brain.  Some of us are born with more active brains than others.  And some of us remember traumas.

[Erngath]

I do believe that Madeleine was abducted.
I would ask that the title of this thread be changed to some people.
I do not know anyone who does not believe that Madeleine was abducted.
I accept that some do, therefore the heading should be qualified.

[Eleanor]

Surely, in that case, one of the twins would also have been ideal.
A bereaved parent looking for a replacement wouldn't necessarily be too choosy

They might have to be if they wished to present an abducted child as their own.

[Eleanor]

So what did they say Eleanor ?

They certainly didn't say that they had no cell phones with them on holiday.  Even you know that.

[G-Unit]

i have no memories from being  3    most people dont because the human brain  develops  most  real  memories after    5  or  6    so  maddie wouldnt    remmeber anything at all if she  was   alive

I have memories from being two years old, and they stem from traumatic events. It was years before I realised what the memories related to, though. Until then all I had was a memory of a couple of things which I occasionally puzzled over. If Madeleine were alive and with new parents she may have peculiar memories from her past, but not know why. If she were told now that they weren't her birth parents and she went to live with them when she was three, she would then be able to 'join the dots' as I did. (My experience was adoption at the age of two).

[Eleanor]

i clearly    remmeber   the  PJ traced calls from that night fromthe tapas 7 didnt they??

So?  When did they say that they had no cell phones?  I think you need to qualify your statement.

[carlymichelle]

I have memories from being two years old, and they stem from traumatic events. It was years before I realised what the memories related to, though. Until then all I had was a memory of a couple of things which I occasionally puzzled over. If Madeleine were alive and with new parents she may have peculiar memories from her past, but not know why. If she were told now that they weren't her birth parents and she went to live with them when she was three, she would then be able to 'join the dots' as I did. (My experience was adoption at the age of two).

yep i understand  ..... do you  get what im saying  though??  most humans cant   remmeber much    from being a  toddler  and a syou  say  with trauma they are not happy memories  some mcann  supporters have said over the years maddie will basically leep into  gerry and kates arms  if she is alive she wouldnt know them  at  all....

[Benice]

they  said they didnt have   mobile phones on that holiday but police traced calls etc

If you really believe what you have just claimed  - then that on its own should give people an idea why some people don't believe the McCanns.    You obviously don't realise that what you claim is totally untrue - and belongs with the scores of other myths lies and disinformation which have been introduced into this case by sceptics and are still believed by many people - and IMO is a major reason why some people don't believe the McCanns.

Unfortunately for some bizarre reason some people appear to WANT to believe the myths etc and so simply ignore anything which shows them to be false - rather than acknowledge that they got it wrong.    Weird.

AIMO.

[ShiningInLuz]

I have memories from being two years old, and they stem from traumatic events. It was years before I realised what the memories related to, though. Until then all I had was a memory of a couple of things which I occasionally puzzled over. If Madeleine were alive and with new parents she may have peculiar memories from her past, but not know why. If she were told now that they weren't her birth parents and she went to live with them when she was three, she would then be able to 'join the dots' as I did. (My experience was adoption at the age of two).

Without wishing to pick into the details, how old were you when you were adopted?

I have two memories from when I was perhaps 2 or younger.  Neither would allow me to work out I was not with my biological parents.

[pathfinder73]

If you really believe what you have just claimed  - then that on its own should give people an idea why some people don't believe the McCanns.    You obviously don't realise that what you claim is totally untrue - and belongs with the scores of other myths lies and disinformation which have been introduced into this case by sceptics and are still believed by many people - and IMO is a major reason why some people don't believe the McCanns.

Unfortunately for some bizarre reason some people appear to WANT to believe the myths etc and so simply ignore anything which shows them to be false - rather than acknowledge that they got it wrong.    Weird.

AIMO.

Gerry couldn't even remember if he brought his mobile phone with him. That's even more unbelievable especially when no call log records were found the next day by the PJ 

"He does not remember if he had taken his mobile phone to the restaurant. He is under the impression that he did not take anything with him, except maybe his wallet."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

And they left it unlocked allegedly!

[Eleanor]

I have memories from being two years old, and they stem from traumatic events. It was years before I realised what the memories related to, though. Until then all I had was a memory of a couple of things which I occasionally puzzled over. If Madeleine were alive and with new parents she may have peculiar memories from her past, but not know why. If she were told now that they weren't her birth parents and she went to live with them when she was three, she would then be able to 'join the dots' as I did. (My experience was adoption at the age of two).

Absolutely correct.  But mostly to do with a trauma of some kind.  And if waking up one morning with a different set of parents isn't a trauma, then God knows what is.

I do so hope that your experience was a good one.  Mine were mostly to do with The War and my mother being mortally ill, which went on for some time, so there is quite a lot that I remember about being three years old.

[Brietta]

An open question.

It is all really terribly simple.  Please note the date on the following article.

Within hours of Madeleine's disappearance the investigation was already using the media to malign her parents.

Because the source seemed to be of the highest integrity ... it was believed.  Some people continue to believe it.  Just as some people continue to believe the subsequent lies and propaganda which continued to be disseminated from the same source during Goncalo Amaral's tenure on the case.


"Esta é uma história muito mal contada"

"This is a verypoorly told story"

05 DE MAIO DE 2007

JOSÉ MANUEL OLIVEIRA e PAULA MARTINHEIRA

**Snip
O desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann, a criança inglesa de três anos que se encontrava de férias em Lagos, "é uma história muito mal contada", confidenciou ao DN fonte da Polícia Judiciária de Portimão.
The disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the British child of three who was on holiday in Lagos, "is a very badly told story," confided the source DN of the Judicial Police of Portimão. The affirmation reflects the doubts of the authorities in the face of testimony "confused" expressed yesterday by witnesses throughout the day.


**Snip
Os pais, que foram levados a meio da manhã para a PJ de Portimão, recusaram-se a falar aos jornalistas, mas a órgãos de informação ingleses avançaram a ideia de que o apartamento teria sido arrombado.
The parents, who were taken mid-morning for the PJ in Portimão, refused to speak to reporters, but British media outlets have advanced the idea that the apartment had been broken into. However, the leaders of the village and the GNR guarantee "not be any evidence of tampering."
http://www.dn.pt/arquivo/2007/interior/esta-e-uma-historia-muito-mal-contada-657013.html

[Brietta]

Surely, in that case, one of the twins would also have been ideal.
A bereaved parent looking for a replacement wouldn't necessarily be too choosy

Perhaps neither fitted the age or the photograph on the passport.

[jassi]

yep i understand  ..... do you  get what im saying  though??  most humans cant   remmeber much    from being a  toddler  and a syou  say  with trauma they are not happy memories some mcann  supporters have said over the years maddie will basically leep into  gerry and kates arms if she is alive she wouldnt know them  at  all....

I find it difficult to believe that anyone could be that naive after all the years that have passed.

[G-Unit]

Despite Kate telling us in the book that they were aware not to touch things, they interfered with the only piece of evidence - the open shutter and windows. So important was it that that's how Kate 'knew' immediately that Madeleine had been abducted. So vital that it eliminated (for her) any possibility of woke and wandered. So important because she knew Madeleine couldn't have opened them, so someone else must have.

Not only was that important evidence interfered with, within hours relatives and friends were convinced that the locked apartment had been broken into by someone forcing, breaking or jemmying the shutters. They didn't invent that, they were told it by the McCanns.