Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?

[carlymichelle]

Despite Kate telling us in the book that they were aware not to touch things, they interfered with the only piece of evidence - the open shutter and windows. So important was it that that's how Kate 'knew' immediately that Madeleine had been abducted. So vital that it eliminated (for her) any possibility of woke and wandered. So important because she knew Madeleine couldn't have opened them, so someone else must have.

Not only was that important evidence interfered with, within hours relatives and friends were convinced that the locked apartment had been broken into by someone forcing, breaking or jemmying the shutters. They didn't invent that, they were told it by the McCanns.

kates   fingerprints were found on them right? wiping away any   crime fingerprints etc if there were  any

[Alfred R Jones]

I find it difficult to believe that anyone could be that naive after all the years that have passed.

I find it difficult to believe that anyone has ever said that in the first place.

[stephen25000]

It is all really terribly simple.  Please note the date on the following article.

Within hours of Madeleine's disappearance the investigation was already using the media to malign her parents.

Because the source seemed to be of the highest integrity ... it was believed.  Some people continue to believe it.  Just as some people continue to believe the subsequent lies and propaganda which continued to be disseminated from the same source during Goncalo Amaral's tenure on the case.


"Esta é uma história muito mal contada"

"This is a verypoorly told story"

05 DE MAIO DE 2007

JOSÉ MANUEL OLIVEIRA e PAULA MARTINHEIRA

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O desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann, a criança inglesa de três anos que se encontrava de férias em Lagos, "é uma história muito mal contada", confidenciou ao DN fonte da Polícia Judiciária de Portimão.
The disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the British child of three who was on holiday in Lagos, "is a very badly told story," confided the source DN of the Judicial Police of Portimão. The affirmation reflects the doubts of the authorities in the face of testimony "confused" expressed yesterday by witnesses throughout the day.


**Snip
Os pais, que foram levados a meio da manhã para a PJ de Portimão, recusaram-se a falar aos jornalistas, mas a órgãos de informação ingleses avançaram a ideia de que o apartamento teria sido arrombado.
The parents, who were taken mid-morning for the PJ in Portimão, refused to speak to reporters, but British media outlets have advanced the idea that the apartment had been broken into. However, the leaders of the village and the GNR guarantee "not be any evidence of tampering."
http://www.dn.pt/arquivo/2007/interior/esta-e-uma-historia-muito-mal-contada-657013.html

I hate to disappoint you, but people can think for themselves, read the files, and state an abduction never happened.

P.S. using different fonts and colours won't change that.

[jassi]

I find it difficult to believe that anyone has ever said that in the first place.

That too, but some people do say strange things.

[Benice]

Gerry couldn't even remember if he brought his mobile phone with him. That's even more unbelievable especially when no call log records were found the next day by the PJ 

"He does not remember if he had taken his mobile phone to the restaurant. He is under the impression that he did not take anything with him, except maybe his wallet."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

And they left it unlocked allegedly!

My post was in reply to this claim made by Carly.:-

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they  said they didnt have   mobile phones on that holiday
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Your ref to Gerry's comments re his mobile would appear to confirm that what Carly claimed is completely untrue - which of course it is.   Maybe your post should have been in response to hers and not mine?

[Alfred R Jones]

That too, but some people do say strange things.

Tell me about it.

[Brietta]

I hate to disappoint you, but people can think for themselves, read the files, and state an abduction never happened.

P.S. using different fonts and colours won't change that.

Is it your opinion that propaganda doesn't work??

In my opinion "Esta é uma história muito mal contada" is a perfect example of the art ... the mere fact that it is still a sceptic shibboleth gives proof of that.
Particularly as no lay person had access to the files at that time to "think for themselves" they were still being fed what to think.  Unfortunately some have never got over it.

[G-Unit]

Without wishing to pick into the details, how old were you when you were adopted?

I have two memories from when I was perhaps 2 or younger.  Neither would allow me to work out I was not with my biological parents.

I was two, but I can't remember my exact age atm. The memories had nothing to do with my previous surroundings before the adoption, they were connected to the journey I was taken on when I was handed over to my adoptive parents. They stayed with me because it was a big car with slippery leather seats which I kept sliding off, and the lady with me told me off and scared me. Years later my Mother said I was brought in a taxi by the District nurse, and I joined the dots. In those days car or taxi journeys were extremely rare, of course.

[stephen25000]

I do believe that Madeleine was abducted.
I would ask that the title of this thread be changed to some people.
I do not know anyone who does not believe that Madeleine was abducted.
I accept that some do, therefore the heading should be qualified.

So I am expected to believe you don't know anyone who questions abduction.

However, when I say the reverse, bar one person, I am quizzed over it.

Double standards or what.

[stephen25000]

Is it your opinion that propaganda doesn't work??

In my opinion "Esta é uma história muito mal contada" is a perfect example of the art ... the mere fact that it is still a sceptic shibboleth gives proof of that.
Particularly as no lay person had access to the files at that time to "think for themselves" they were still being fed what to think.  Unfortunately some have never got over it.

You mean your and other mccanns supporters  propaganda ?

It won't wash with me.

[Mr Gray]

I find it difficult to believe that anyone could be that naive after all the years that have passed.

That's because what Carly is saying is not true

[Erngath]

So I am expected to believe you don't know anyone who questions abduction.

However, when I say the reverse, bar one person, I am quizzed over it.

Double standards or what.

I really don't mind whether you believe me or not.
I know folk who had doubts at the time, but not now and that includes a DC with Police Scotland who is amazed that anyone can still view the McCanns as suspects.

[Brietta]

You mean your and other mccanns supporters  propaganda ?

It won't wash with me.

"Esta é uma história muito mal contada" was on the newstands on the 5th of May ... the source of which, questioning that Madeleine had been abducted, was the Policia Judiciaria.

By definition the propagandists were therefore the Policia Judiciaria.  That the propaganda was effective can be judged by the title of this thread.

[stephen25000]

I really don't mind whether you believe me or not.
I know folk who had doubts at the time, but not now and that includes a DC with Police Scotland who is amazed that anyone can still view the McCanns as suspects.

Likewise, I know a few police officers who don't believe the mccanns version of events.

So what next ?

The mccanns have changed their stories....................

[stephen25000]

"Esta é uma história muito mal contada" was on the newstands on the 5th of May ... the source of which, questioning that Madeleine had been abducted, was the Policia Judiciaria.

By definition the propagandists were therefore the Policia Judiciaria.  That the propaganda was effective can be judged by the title of this thread.

Utter and complete rubbish.

I did not read the Portuguese headlines at the time.