Author Topic: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?  (Read 185961 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #510 on: February 15, 2016, 09:07:17 PM »
Key words underlined: targeted abduction or opportunistic abduction.

But definitely abduction.

The man you partially quoted gave his view.

There is no evidence of abduction.

Saying abduction is not proof.

and the only reason you keep repeating it, is rather blatant.

However, it won't change the truth.

Now ferryman, the mccanns went from a LOCKED apartment to UNLOCKED.

Which one was the lie ?


ferryman

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #511 on: February 15, 2016, 09:10:03 PM »
If a targeted abduction, then opportunistic abduction would be the lie; or vice versa ...

stephen25000

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #512 on: February 15, 2016, 09:12:03 PM »
If a targeted abduction, then opportunistic abduction would be the lie; or vice versa ...

Keep dreaming ferryman.

That's all you have.

stephen25000

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #513 on: February 15, 2016, 09:16:09 PM »
If a targeted abduction, then opportunistic abduction would be the lie; or vice versa ...

So who was this abductor ferryman ?

The invisible man perhaps ? 8**8:/:

ferryman

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #514 on: February 15, 2016, 09:20:26 PM »
So who was this abductor ferryman ?

The invisible man perhaps ? 8**8:/:

99.99% (plus) certain, a different abductor from the one that took Ben Needham.

stephen25000

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #515 on: February 15, 2016, 09:25:43 PM »
99.99% (plus) certain, a different abductor from the one that took Ben Needham.



Proof of abduction ferryman ?

and not an opinion.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #516 on: February 15, 2016, 09:41:45 PM »
Key words underlined: targeted abduction or opportunistic abduction.

But definitely abduction.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it wasn't the opinion of any of the Portuguese authorities.
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stephen25000

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #517 on: February 15, 2016, 09:42:38 PM »
99.99% (plus) certain, a different abductor from the one that took Ben Needham.

Nope.

1%.   8(0(*

Offline Brietta

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #518 on: February 15, 2016, 09:52:00 PM »
So who was this abductor ferryman ?

The invisible man perhaps ? 8**8:/:

  ...  when I entered to PJ, young, in 1981, with 22 years old, we wanted what today I don´t know if it will be much, to investigate homicides, to investigate drug trafficking, investigate organized crime, and we were with, shall we say, adrenaline, the areas of children, of the missing children or adults, was always mistreated areas, and I remember the father of a missing youngster from Porto, here, Jorge Sepúlveda, which told that in 1991, when he presented, when he told about his son´s disappearance, that there was only one inspector to investigate the disappearances and ten for car theft, the car is much more important than a child, this continues, and that case made me awake for that reality, the reality of the families, those families whose sons disappears, what is the state, the organizations, the police itself, how can help them, what they can expect from police forces, what the police forces can expect of an absence long term, this is nothing, this means nothing, there isn't a planning in terms of investigation, and people are adrift.

Host: This case did not change a thing in Portugal?

GA: Did not, did not, but I hope that it will, because, this is the problem of PJ, and as a superior organ of criminal police, it should have that attention.
The PJ has a legal obligation, because it is at PJ´s organic law, to detect criminal phenomenon, and that doesn´t happen, the PJ continues to react (like any other police) to a real event, then no studies about the phenomenon, and PJ don´t prepare in this situation, the disappearances of children, or an adult disappearance, people who, people don´t even know where to complain, there is an informative note that PJ at 2007 which says something like this: by the way of the missing children´s day, well, don´t forget to give useful advices to parents of missing, half a dozen, but don´t forget that this not crime, and that it is at that informative note, it´s no crime, it´s not investigated as a crime, there is no urgency (for people to understand) but it has to be investigated as a crime, because a child who disappears, everything may happened, a crime, and if not investigated.many things will be lost (12:19).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMwAsA3bgY4&feature=player_embedded#


Mr Amaral seems to have been aware that all the stops have to be pulled out when a child goes missing.  The result of any failure in the investigation means ... "many things will be lost".

He appears to be of the opinion that all avenues of investigation have to remain open ... in particular that the disappearance of a child has to be treated as a crime.

To reiterate that 'the nature of the crime is unknown' is semantics ... when you are aware that the current Policia Judiciaria and Scotland Yard investigations are concentrating on abduction.

Not because they have been told to ... but because they have been following the evidence from scoping exercise to review to reopening of the case.


"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #519 on: February 15, 2016, 10:08:21 PM »
  ...  when I entered to PJ, young, in 1981, with 22 years old, we wanted what today I don´t know if it will be much, to investigate homicides, to investigate drug trafficking, investigate organized crime, and we were with, shall we say, adrenaline, the areas of children, of the missing children or adults, was always mistreated areas, and I remember the father of a missing youngster from Porto, here, Jorge Sepúlveda, which told that in 1991, when he presented, when he told about his son´s disappearance, that there was only one inspector to investigate the disappearances and ten for car theft, the car is much more important than a child, this continues, and that case made me awake for that reality, the reality of the families, those families whose sons disappears, what is the state, the organizations, the police itself, how can help them, what they can expect from police forces, what the police forces can expect of an absence long term, this is nothing, this means nothing, there isn't a planning in terms of investigation, and people are adrift.

Host: This case did not change a thing in Portugal?

GA: Did not, did not, but I hope that it will, because, this is the problem of PJ, and as a superior organ of criminal police, it should have that attention.
The PJ has a legal obligation, because it is at PJ´s organic law, to detect criminal phenomenon, and that doesn´t happen, the PJ continues to react (like any other police) to a real event, then no studies about the phenomenon, and PJ don´t prepare in this situation, the disappearances of children, or an adult disappearance, people who, people don´t even know where to complain, there is an informative note that PJ at 2007 which says something like this: by the way of the missing children´s day, well, don´t forget to give useful advices to parents of missing, half a dozen, but don´t forget that this not crime, and that it is at that informative note, it´s no crime, it´s not investigated as a crime, there is no urgency (for people to understand) but it has to be investigated as a crime, because a child who disappears, everything may happened, a crime, and if not investigated.many things will be lost (12:19).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMwAsA3bgY4&feature=player_embedded#


Mr Amaral seems to have been aware that all the stops have to be pulled out when a child goes missing.  The result of any failure in the investigation means ... "many things will be lost".

He appears to be of the opinion that all avenues of investigation have to remain open ... in particular that the disappearance of a child has to be treated as a crime.

To reiterate that 'the nature of the crime is unknown' is semantics ... when you are aware that the current Policia Judiciaria and Scotland Yard investigations are concentrating on abduction.

Not because they have been told to ... but because they have been following the evidence from scoping exercise to review to reopening of the case.

It sounds impressive but to quote the late Jack Fingleton "Wadda yer mean by it".
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #520 on: February 15, 2016, 10:17:47 PM »
It sounds impressive but to quote the late Jack Fingleton "Wadda yer mean by it".

Attempting to give an explanation to one who is determined not to understand is a fruitless exercise.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline sadie

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #521 on: February 15, 2016, 10:18:56 PM »
99.99% (plus) certain, a different abductor from the one that took Ben Needham.

£5%4%, i wonder?

My suspect has very definite connections to the Phonecian islands around Kos where Ben went missing.   

He has also has connections to the Knights of St John whose Neratzia Castle is only about three miles from Iraklis where Ben went missing.

But that alone is not proof of anything.


I do wonder tho' if Bens abduction is connected in any way with the loss of Madeleine.

Does anyone know, does Ben [BENJAMIN] have Jewish Canannite roots, as Madeleine does, I think? 

Many of the Cannanite Jews are descended from the Greeks and the Phonecians.  They were VERY clever people.


stephen25000

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #522 on: February 15, 2016, 10:30:30 PM »
  ...  when I entered to PJ, young, in 1981, with 22 years old, we wanted what today I don´t know if it will be much, to investigate homicides, to investigate drug trafficking, investigate organized crime, and we were with, shall we say, adrenaline, the areas of children, of the missing children or adults, was always mistreated areas, and I remember the father of a missing youngster from Porto, here, Jorge Sepúlveda, which told that in 1991, when he presented, when he told about his son´s disappearance, that there was only one inspector to investigate the disappearances and ten for car theft, the car is much more important than a child, this continues, and that case made me awake for that reality, the reality of the families, those families whose sons disappears, what is the state, the organizations, the police itself, how can help them, what they can expect from police forces, what the police forces can expect of an absence long term, this is nothing, this means nothing, there isn't a planning in terms of investigation, and people are adrift.

Host: This case did not change a thing in Portugal?

GA: Did not, did not, but I hope that it will, because, this is the problem of PJ, and as a superior organ of criminal police, it should have that attention.
The PJ has a legal obligation, because it is at PJ´s organic law, to detect criminal phenomenon, and that doesn´t happen, the PJ continues to react (like any other police) to a real event, then no studies about the phenomenon, and PJ don´t prepare in this situation, the disappearances of children, or an adult disappearance, people who, people don´t even know where to complain, there is an informative note that PJ at 2007 which says something like this: by the way of the missing children´s day, well, don´t forget to give useful advices to parents of missing, half a dozen, but don´t forget that this not crime, and that it is at that informative note, it´s no crime, it´s not investigated as a crime, there is no urgency (for people to understand) but it has to be investigated as a crime, because a child who disappears, everything may happened, a crime, and if not investigated.many things will be lost (12:19).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMwAsA3bgY4&feature=player_embedded#


Mr Amaral seems to have been aware that all the stops have to be pulled out when a child goes missing.  The result of any failure in the investigation means ... "many things will be lost".

He appears to be of the opinion that all avenues of investigation have to remain open ... in particular that the disappearance of a child has to be treated as a crime.

To reiterate that 'the nature of the crime is unknown' is semantics ... when you are aware that the current Policia Judiciaria and Scotland Yard investigations are concentrating on abduction.

Not because they have been told to ... but because they have been following the evidence from scoping exercise to review to reopening of the case.

When were the McCann's and co interviewed by SY ?

stephen25000

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #523 on: February 15, 2016, 10:31:50 PM »

£5%4%, i wonder?

My suspect has very definite connections to the Phonecian islands around Kos where Ben went missing.   

He has also has connections to the Knights of St John whose Neratzia Castle is only about three miles from Iraklis where Ben went missing.

But that alone is not proof of anything.


I do wonder tho' if Bens abduction is connected in any way with the loss of Madeleine.

Does anyone know, does Ben [BENJAMIN] have Jewish Canannite roots, as Madeleine does, I think? 

Many of the Cannanite Jews are descended from the Greeks and the Phonecians.  They were VERY clever people.

OFF TOPIC.

stephen25000

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #524 on: February 15, 2016, 10:44:42 PM »

£5%4%, i wonder?

My suspect has very definite connections to the Phonecian islands around Kos where Ben went missing.   

He has also has connections to the Knights of St John whose Neratzia Castle is only about three miles from Iraklis where Ben went missing.

But that alone is not proof of anything.


I do wonder tho' if Bens abduction is connected in any way with the loss of Madeleine.

Does anyone know, does Ben [BENJAMIN] have Jewish Canannite roots, as Madeleine does, I think? 

Many of the Cannanite Jews are descended from the Greeks and the Phonecians.  They were VERY clever people.

You've omitted the Klingons and Romulans from your list. 8(>((