Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?

[carlymichelle]

Utter and complete rubbish.

I did not read the Portuguese headlines at the time.

either did i  i cant  speak portugese

[Erngath]

Fair enough. I can't top that . I have only spoken to one Detective Constable.
He is a family member. I've never had the opportunity to discuss this case with a few police officers.
Sorry this was a reply to Stephen.

[G-Unit]

Absolutely correct.  But mostly to do with a trauma of some kind.  And if waking up one morning with a different set of parents isn't a trauma, then God knows what is.

I do so hope that your experience was a good one.  Mine were mostly to do with The War and my mother being mortally ill, which went on for some time, so there is quite a lot that I remember about being three years old.

I would say I had post traumatic stress for years, so not good, no. On the plus side, I am very self-aware, I know myself inside out. On the minus side no carefree childhood for me.

[stephen25000]

Fair enough. I can't top that . I have only spoken to one Detective Constable.
He is a family member. I've never had the opportunity to discuss this case with a few police officers.
Sorry this was a reply to Stephen.

I wasn't trying to top you talking to a DC.

I merely stated I have discussed the case with a few police officers.

[Eleanor]

either did i  i cant  speak portugese

Really?  But you expect The McCanns to be able.

[G-Unit]

It is all really terribly simple.  Please note the date on the following article.

Within hours of Madeleine's disappearance the investigation was already using the media to malign her parents.

Because the source seemed to be of the highest integrity ... it was believed.  Some people continue to believe it.  Just as some people continue to believe the subsequent lies and propaganda which continued to be disseminated from the same source during Goncalo Amaral's tenure on the case.


"Esta é uma história muito mal contada"

"This is a verypoorly told story"

05 DE MAIO DE 2007

JOSÉ MANUEL OLIVEIRA e PAULA MARTINHEIRA

**Snip
O desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann, a criança inglesa de três anos que se encontrava de férias em Lagos, "é uma história muito mal contada", confidenciou ao DN fonte da Polícia Judiciária de Portimão.
The disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the British child of three who was on holiday in Lagos, "is a very badly told story," confided the source DN of the Judicial Police of Portimão. The affirmation reflects the doubts of the authorities in the face of testimony "confused" expressed yesterday by witnesses throughout the day.


**Snip
Os pais, que foram levados a meio da manhã para a PJ de Portimão, recusaram-se a falar aos jornalistas, mas a órgãos de informação ingleses avançaram a ideia de que o apartamento teria sido arrombado.
The parents, who were taken mid-morning for the PJ in Portimão, refused to speak to reporters, but British media outlets have advanced the idea that the apartment had been broken into. However, the leaders of the village and the GNR guarantee "not be any evidence of tampering."
http://www.dn.pt/arquivo/2007/interior/esta-e-uma-historia-muito-mal-contada-657013.html

Not quite as simple as some think. This article was dated the day before the one above.

The Sun, 4th May 2007

"They were all sound asleep, windows shut, shutters shut," said Trish Cameron, Madeleine's aunt. "Kate went back at 10pm to check, the front door was lying open, the window had been tampered with, the shutters had been jammied open, and Madeleine was missing."

John Hill, the manager at the British-run Mark Warner resort, said Madeleine's parents and twin siblings were distraught and that sniffer dogs had been brought in to comb the resort, while border police in Portugal and Spain had been alerted to her disappearance.

He denied reports that the windows to the apartment had been forced open, while another spokesman said a set of French windows had been left unlocked.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/1may7/04-05-07-Times-Transcript.htm

[Alice Purjorick]

Child is abducted => paths of abductor and child crossing => child got out or abductor got in.
Parents say no way child can get out (?) => abductor must have got in.
Police and MW manager (J Hill?) say there was no evidence of break in => abductor used a front door key and exited the same way OR:
The abductor gained entry and exit through patio door, very tidily closing the door and safety gate after himself on the way out OR:
The abductor was Zeus pulling the golden rain trick again.

“Right ma’am nothing suspicious here”

[Mr Gray]

people don't believe in abduction because they do not understand the evidence

[pathfinder73]

Child is abducted => paths of abductor and child crossing => child got out or abductor got in.
Parents say no way child can get out (?) => abductor must have got in.
Police and MW manager (J Hill?) say there was no evidence of break in => abductor used a front door key and exited the same way OR:
The abductor gained entry and exit through patio door, very tidily closing the door and safety gate after himself on the way out OR:
The abductor was Zeus pulling the golden rain trick again.

“Right ma’am nothing suspicious here”

Yes the abductor got in and that may explain why it was unlocked  Who do those hidden efits look like again  &%+((£

[Brietta]

Utter and complete rubbish.

I did not read the Portuguese headlines at the time.

You didn't have to ... all you had to do was to wait for the English tabloids to print the same stories from the same sources.

For information I refer you to :-

WITNESS STATEMENT OF DAVID HAMILTON PILDITCH
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140122145147/http:/www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Witness-Statement-of-David-Pilditch.pdf

which explains in great detail exactly how and from where the information printed in the British tabloids was obtained.

[Brietta]

Yes the abductor got in and that may explain why it was unlocked  Who do those hidden efits look like again  &%+((£

Very like a person who is under house arrest at the moment charged with a variety of criminal offences ... and who had enough information about the case to write one of the first books about it.

[pathfinder73]

Very like a person who is under house arrest at the moment charged with a variety of criminal offences ... and who had enough information about the case to write one of the first books about it.

Was he named by any witness?

[stephen25000]

You didn't have to ... all you had to do was to wait for the English tabloids to print the same stories from the same sources.

For information I refer you to :-

WITNESS STATEMENT OF DAVID HAMILTON PILDITCH
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140122145147/http:/www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Witness-Statement-of-David-Pilditch.pdf

which explains in great detail exactly how and from where the information printed in the British tabloids was obtained.

You still don't understand Brietta.

I don't take tabloids as accurate sources of information, far from it.

A friend of mine helped search for Madeleine, the night she disappeared.

I also know a family who arrived in PDL a week later after Madeleine disappeared. They had friends already there, who witnessed the aftermath of what happened, and the blanket press coverage which ensued in the days after.

There is more as regards the latter, but at best secondary information.

[Brietta]

Was he named by any witness?

Had any of the witnesses been exposed to blanket news and television coverage of this spot on lookalike on a daily basis over a period of months?  Had any of the witnesses ever seen his photograph or know anything about him?

By the way ... I am not suggesting that this lookalike had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance as apart from the remarkable resemblance there is no evidence to suggest he is indeed the lookalike. 

Pity you do not follow the same standard.

[Brietta]

You still don't understand Brietta.

I don't take tabloids as accurate sources of information, far from it.

A friend of mine helped search for Madeleine, the night she disappeared.

I also know a family who arrived in PDL a week later after Madeleine disappeared. They had friends already there, who witnessed the aftermath of what happened, and the blanket press coverage which ensued in the days after.

There is more as regards the latter, but at best secondary information.

Your opinion is informed.

I have read some of those sources and watched those videos too ... and they have been instrumental in forming my opinion too.

There is no doubt that from the beginning the Drs McCann were traduced ... there is no doubt as to the source of that vilification.  There is no doubt that whether believed or not it has become a convenient peg on which to hang a smear campaign.

From the 5th May 2007 ... right through to 10th February 2016 ~ takes some motivation.

Prior to any investigation into all the circumstances which could have led to Madeleine's disappearance ... the Policia Judiciaria had decided their theory of death and concealment and unsubtly were rubbishing the abduction theory.

Operation Grange and the Policia Judiciaria had to go back to the very beginning before they could start their investigations ... can you guess what theory it is they are still actively pursuing and why they have interviewed suspects?