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Offline Benice

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #150 on: February 11, 2016, 05:29:47 PM »
Stop making excuses. Kate was probably annoyed because she offered to call the cops before they actually did and her changing that time to 11pm is desperate stuff. Who does she think she is trying to fool by changing timelines. SY should be looking closely at the timeline because they have been trying to change it since day 1 and sadly getting away with it. You only have to look at the first timelines and they went to check at first light when Fiona said it was still cold and dark when they left. They may easily fool you but it don't work on me!

What are you on about?   What has any of that got to do with my comment that Gerry may have said ''OUR little girl has gone missing'' and not  ''A little girl has gone missing''?    I didn't even mention Kate.

For all Kate and Gerry knew  any number of members of the public could have phoned the police once the alarm had been raised.   The idea that they were somehow able to control or prevent that possibility is preposterous.

Fiona couldn't even say for definite what time K&G left - ''between 5 and 6'' was the best she could do.   Anyone who can find something majorly sinister in what she said and what Kate said about the level of light is taking nitpicking to a whole new level IMO.


 
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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #151 on: February 11, 2016, 07:01:39 PM »
Gerry Mccann outside a Portuguese Court in Lisbon......


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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #152 on: February 11, 2016, 07:22:37 PM »
What are you on about?   What has any of that got to do with my comment that Gerry may have said ''OUR little girl has gone missing'' and not  ''A little girl has gone missing''?    I didn't even mention Kate.

For all Kate and Gerry knew  any number of members of the public could have phoned the police once the alarm had been raised.   The idea that they were somehow able to control or prevent that possibility is preposterous.

Fiona couldn't even say for definite what time K&G left - ''between 5 and 6'' was the best she could do.   Anyone who can find something majorly sinister in what she said and what Kate said about the level of light is taking nitpicking to a whole new level IMO.

Yes a guess because they were just about to nod off so it would have been around 5am. Searches had finished at 4am. They were all back in their apartments and about an hour later (when the Payne's were nodding off) they tell them they are going back out to search and they were all alone according to Kate. So it's reasonable to suggest they left sometime after 5am and that's not at first light.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #153 on: February 11, 2016, 07:37:25 PM »
I presume they had heating in 5a?

Matthew was concentrating on looking at the twins,    he said he thought it was lighter in the room,  he thought the moon was out,  read his statement.

You presume? Is that a statement or a question? If it's a question I can't imagine why I would know. Even if there was heating, a wind which needed five layers of clothes for adults would have been blowing across those kid's backs for 45 minutes and they only had pj's on.

I've um err um read all the tut um statements. Matt thought there were two windows in the room, he got the colours of the curtains wrong and he found a non existent bookcase in the apartment. Very observant. Even he would have felt the wind blowing out the bedroom door I imagine. If it was as cold as we've been told he should have heard the twin's teeth chattering, let alone spotting them breathing.

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Offline Lace

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #154 on: February 12, 2016, 11:08:52 AM »
You presume? Is that a statement or a question? If it's a question I can't imagine why I would know. Even if there was heating, a wind which needed five layers of clothes for adults would have been blowing across those kid's backs for 45 minutes and they only had pj's on.

I've um err um read all the tut um statements. Matt thought there were two windows in the room, he got the colours of the curtains wrong and he found a non existent bookcase in the apartment. Very observant. Even he would have felt the wind blowing out the bedroom door I imagine. If it was as cold as we've been told he should have heard the twin's teeth chattering, let alone spotting them breathing.

The McCann's and friends were OUTSIDE that is why they needed layers of clothes,  the twins were tucked up in their cots with the heating on.    The wind wasn't constantly blowing through the window,  as Kate said thee was a sudden gust of wind which blew the curtains out.

If the 'um err um'  is a reference to Matt's statement,  I would point out to you that everyone uses those when speaking,   we don't even notice we are doing it,   they had to write down everything said.   Listen to Prince Charles the next time he does a speech.

Thing is,  Matthew was concentrating on looking at the twins,  he saw them they were breathing,  there was quiet in the room,  he thought they were all asleep,  he also thought the room looked light as if the moon had come out.

All your reference to the twins shivering etc. has no bearing on this what so ever.

Offline jassi

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #155 on: February 12, 2016, 11:11:37 AM »
The McCann's and friends were OUTSIDE that is why they needed layers of clothes,  the twins were tucked up in their cots with the heating on.    The wind wasn't constantly blowing through the window,  as Kate said thee was a sudden gust of wind which blew the curtains out.

If the 'um err um'  is a reference to Matt's statement,  I would point out to you that everyone uses those when speaking,   we don't even notice we are doing it,   they had to write down everything said.   Listen to Prince Charles the next time he does a speech.

Thing is,  Matthew was concentrating on looking at the twins,  he saw them they were breathing,  there was quiet in the room,  he thought they were all asleep,  he also thought the room looked light as if the moon had come out.

All your reference to the twins shivering etc. has no bearing on this what so ever.


Where did you get that information from?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #156 on: February 12, 2016, 11:13:35 AM »
The McCann's and friends were OUTSIDE that is why they needed layers of clothes,  the twins were tucked up in their cots with the heating on.    The wind wasn't constantly blowing through the window,  as Kate said thee was a sudden gust of wind which blew the curtains out.

If the 'um err um'  is a reference to Matt's statement,  I would point out to you that everyone uses those when speaking,   we don't even notice we are doing it,   they had to write down everything said.   Listen to Prince Charles the next time he does a speech.

Thing is,  Matthew was concentrating on looking at the twins,  he saw them they were breathing,  there was quiet in the room,  he thought they were all asleep,  he also thought the room looked light as if the moon had come out.

All your reference to the twins shivering etc. has no bearing on this what so ever.

Listen to anyone.  Every body does it.  Even Mr. Bennett.  And me sometimes.  It's usually a small pause for thought.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #157 on: February 12, 2016, 11:37:11 AM »
The McCann's and friends were OUTSIDE that is why they needed layers of clothes,  the twins were tucked up in their cots with the heating on.    The wind wasn't constantly blowing through the window,  as Kate said thee was a sudden gust of wind which blew the curtains out.

If the 'um err um'  is a reference to Matt's statement,  I would point out to you that everyone uses those when speaking,   we don't even notice we are doing it,   they had to write down everything said.   Listen to Prince Charles the next time he does a speech.

Thing is,  Matthew was concentrating on looking at the twins,  he saw them they were breathing,  there was quiet in the room,  he thought they were all asleep,  he also thought the room looked light as if the moon had come out.

All your reference to the twins shivering etc. has no bearing on this what so ever.

So you now know there was heating and that it was turned on. Could you please provide a cite for that?
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Offline Lace

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #158 on: February 12, 2016, 11:41:04 AM »
So you now know there was heating and that it was turned on. Could you please provide a cite for that?

Why wouldn't there be heating?   Were the McCann's having to wear layers of clothes inside 5a?   You are being pedantic now aren't you.   

All apartments especially when you pay what the McCann's did would have heating.

Offline Lace

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #159 on: February 12, 2016, 11:42:12 AM »

Where did you get that information from?

What information?

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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #160 on: February 12, 2016, 11:42:37 AM »
Why wouldn't there be heating?   Were the McCann's having to wear layers of clothes inside 5a?   You are being pedantic now aren't you.   

All apartments especially when you pay what the McCann's did would have heating.

Yet they couldn't pay a baby sitter.

Offline jassi

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #161 on: February 12, 2016, 11:43:15 AM »
What information?

About the heating being on - as per my highlighting.
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Offline Lace

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #162 on: February 12, 2016, 11:55:02 AM »
About the heating being on - as per my highlighting.

Sorry skimming didn't see the highlighting.

Well it's obvious to me that there would have been heating,   everywhere I have been in May has had heating,  the McCann's never mentioned having to pile bedding on the bed because it was cold.


Offline Lace

Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #163 on: February 12, 2016, 11:55:50 AM »
Yet they couldn't pay a baby sitter.

They explained why they didn't have a baby sitter,  it had nothing to do with money.


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Re: Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?
« Reply #164 on: February 12, 2016, 12:03:50 PM »
They explained why they didn't have a baby sitter,  it had nothing to do with money.

The explanation was illogical.

The children were left with people they didn't know at the creche.

They could have employed a creche worker or someone recommended from there as a babysitter.
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