Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?

[Carana]

As to the locked or unlocked, which is the truth ?

Now they 'locked' the apartment during the day.

gerry mccann claims 'nothing of value was taken', which takes out burglary.

So what is the truth ???

Now there's a question....................

It doesn't take out an initial intention of burglary, though.

[stephen25000]

It doesn't take out an initial intention of burglary, though.

You mean from the person or persons, of whose existence there is no evidence ?

[Benice]

You mean from the person or persons, of whose existence there is no evidence ?

Unidentified hairs?  Unidentified partial fingerprints?   Both are evidence collected  from the scene which at present belong to persons unknown.   

[ShiningInLuz]

So still avoiding the lie detector test question
Your idea is totally ridiculous as several posters have confirmed

Bump the lie detector thread and I will be happy to read the lot, then comment on it.

Otherwise, you might as well be a member of the Flat Earth Society claiming this point has been debated in the past and the conclusion reached was the Earth was flat therefore ...

We are back into the realms of broken logic.

Bump the thread, or feel free to claim this battle has already been fought and won.  Easy claim to make.  Easy to provide the evidence thereof.

I'm sure the mods would prefer that consideration of the accuracy of lie detector tests takes place within a thread devoted to the accuracy of lie detector tests, so are you going to bump it or not?

[Mr Gray]

Unidentified hairs?  Unidentified partial fingerprints?   Both are evidence collected  from the scene which at present belong to persons unknown.

So there is evidence of unidentified individuals at the crime scene

[stephen25000]

Unidentified hairs?  Unidentified partial fingerprints?   Both are evidence collected  from the scene which at present belong to persons unknown.

Wow, hairs and partial fingerprints.

I wonder how MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THERE OVER THE YEARS ?

[Mr Gray]

Wow, hairs and partial fingerprints.

I wonder how MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THERE OVER THE YEARS ?

Same goes for every crime scene

[Benice]

Wow, hairs and partial fingerprints.

I wonder how MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THERE OVER THE YEARS ?

So you think any fingerprint evidence or hairs collected at the scene immediately after the event which have not been able to be identified  - should be discounted by the police because lots of people have been in 5a over the years.     How does that prove that those particular hairs/fingerprints could not possibly belong to an intruder who may have entered 5a on the 3rd May.      Please explain.

[stephen25000]

So you think any fingerprint evidence or hairs collected at the scene immediately after the event which have not been able to be identified  - should be discounted by the police because lots of people have been in 5a over the years.     How does that prove that those particular hairs/fingerprints could not possibly belong to an intruder who may have entered 5a on the 3rd May.      Please explain.

It does not mean there was an abductor/burglar.


and the reason you cling onto this is simple..

Of there was no abduction all roads lead to the mccanns. Either through negligence, if she walked out by herself or worse.

[Carana]

It does not mean there was an abductor/burglar.


and the reason you cling onto this is simple..

Of there was no abduction all roads lead to the mccanns. Either through negligence, if she walked out by herself or worse.

Stephen, you keep saying that there's no evidence, yet whenever someone points out that there IS potentially relevant evidence, you dismiss it.

If newer technologies can now extract the DNA, it would be worth doing, don't you think?

[carlymichelle]

why is that story  trending  right now and all over the worlds media?? it is trending on facebook  is it to do with the new book about how  corrupt the metro police are??

[stephen25000]

Stephen, you keep saying that there's no evidence, yet whenever someone points out that there IS potentially relevant evidence, you dismiss it.

If newer technologies can now extract the DNA, it would be worth doing, don't you think?

Evidence of what Carana ?

Evidence of other people being in the apartment does not mean evidence of abductor or a burglar.

Likewise, how do you know whether or not the hairs have been brought in by secondary transfer ?

[Carana]

Evidence of what Carana ?

Evidence of other people being in the apartment does not mean evidence of abductor or a burglar.

Likewise, how do you know whether or not the hairs have been brought in by secondary transfer ?

On it's own, it certainly wouldn't be proof. On the other hand, it could be a red flag that might lead to proof.

[jassi]

It doesn't take out an initial intention of burglary, though.

By whom?  No burglar has been identified.

[Carana]

By whom?  No burglar has been identified.

I'm aware of that. However, my point was that just because nothing of value (aside from Madeleine) was missing doesn't exclude entry by a burglar who took off with the child instead.