Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Why would that be galling for me? It's really quite simple. I can find a window of opportunity in the group's timeline too. That means nothing if it's wrong though.

The Met have spent considerable resources on establishing the correct timeline, yet you beleve you know better, that is what sticks in your pipe.

[stephen25000]

The Met have spent considerable resources on establishing the correct timeline, yet you beleve you know better, that is what sticks in your pipe.

Yet with this time line they have achieved.......

[Miss Taken Identity]

The Met have spent considerable resources on establishing the correct timeline, yet you beleve you know better, that is what sticks in your pipe.

Now you don't know that for sure do you? They have built a timeline BASED on what information they have  been told. If the timeline was accurate and truthfull there would have been no real need for them to change it? make it fit a different scenario from the Tapas?  Jane Tanner did not see  the abductor. Years we had to listen to that story.

[Mr Gray]

Now you don't know that for sure do you? They have built a timeline BASED on what information they have  been told. If the timeline was accurate and truthfull there would have been no real need for them to change it? make it fit a different scenario from the Tapas?  Jane Tanner did not see  the abductor. Years we had to listen to that story.

I would say the judgement made by SY as to whether the McCanns are telling the truth would be more reliable than the lie detectors some posters put so much faith in

[G-Unit]

The Met have spent considerable resources on establishing the correct timeline, yet you beleve you know better, that is what sticks in your pipe.

How do you know that? They may have just lifted it straight from the PJ Files.

[G-Unit]

Now you don't know that for sure do you? They have built a timeline BASED on what information they have  been told. If the timeline was accurate and truthfull there would have been no real need for them to change it? make it fit a different scenario from the Tapas?  Jane Tanner did not see  the abductor. Years we had to listen to that story.

I was just reading Sadie's theory which is built around the Tanner sighting. Of course Tannerman is no more. We now have nice friendly drumroll......................'Crecheman!' carrying his own child.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I was just reading Sadie's theory which is built around the Tanner sighting. Of course Tannerman is no more. We now have nice friendly drumroll......................'Crecheman!' carrying his own child.

... on a cold night with no blanket or socks being carried like a dead body to be placed on a grave/alter.  Something still not quite right about that situation. I don't believe he is an abductor, but sommething just doesn't add up.

[jassi]

Perhaps he never existed at all and its all one giant game of  bluff (blind man variety)

[carlymichelle]

Perhaps he never existed at all and its all one giant game of  bluff (blind man variety)

maybe it  was    the spotty man from    here!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqAksFdiKzo

[Miss Taken Identity]

Perhaps he never existed at all and its all one giant game of  bluff (blind man variety)

lol  whoooosh.  I have always been perplexed by his 'sighting'. sneaking into the night carrying a child that way. If it was from a creche then surely they would know it gets cold at night, and would have at least a blanket to wrap around the child. and socks? children in creche are usually requested to wear socks and slippers/trainers was the child taken into the creche like that? Hmmm.

[G-Unit]

Perhaps he never existed at all and its all one giant game of  bluff (blind man variety)

Could be. The original story didn't seem very believable and neither did the one to replace him, but at least he's gone now. Allowing the time to move on....tick....tock....etc.

[slartibartfast]

I trust you are not suggesting that in order for a burglary to occur, the premises must be locked?

Does for breaking and entering.

[Brietta]

The power of the press of the time to mould and form the opinions which are still held by some today should never be underestimated.

None more so than the Express Newspapers... who suffered financial penalties and issued a front page apology for printing lies about the Drs McCann.

Despite that and revelations by the editor at the time about the circumstances and the sources of many of the stories and headlines there are still those who have never forgotten or relinquished the acknowledged errors of the past.

The title of this thread is witness to that.


Peter Hill: 'I did too much on the Madeleine McCann story'

Roy Greenslade
Monday 21 February 2011 07.00 GMT Last modified on Sunday 10 January 2016 10.59 GMT

**Snip
Peter Hill has pulled off that most difficult of tricks in the media world.
He has managed to maintain a low profile despite being at the centre of several controversies and attracting considerable criticism during his seven years as editor of the Daily Express.
He has also achieved the rare distinction in national newspapers of choosing to retire rather than being axed. Friday evening was his last in the Express chair, and marked the end of a journalistic career stretching back 50 years.

**Snip
 ... But he is contrite about the sad episode that ended with Express Newspapers being landed with one of the most expensive legal bills in newspaper history – the coverage of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Hill's paper and its three other titles, the Daily Star, Sunday Express and Daily Star Sunday.
He says: "I did too much on the story. I accept that."

Too much wasn't the only problem though.
There were also the stories that suggested Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, might have been complicit in her disappearance, which in its apology Express Newspapers admitted were "seriously defamatory".

Asked whether he regretted libelling the McCanns, he replies: "Of course I do. And I insisted on apologising on the front of the newspaper when it became clear that it was a complete fabrication. We gave them £500,000. It doesn't redound to my credit but it did help them to continue the search."

Leaking stories

So why did it happen?
"It was a huge story, and every adult in the country had an opinion on it.
I admit it helped to sell the paper.
There were many factors involved, such as the way Maddy's parents sought publicity in an unprecedented way.

"All the way through, our principal focus was on 'what's happened to Maddy?'
The Portuguese police and British legal sources were leaking stories that implied the McCanns were guilty in some way.
We were not to know that the Portuguese police were ineffectual and, in some cases, corrupt."

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/feb/21/peter-hill-daily-express-madeleine-mccann

[mercury]

... on a cold night with no blanket or socks being carried like a dead body to be placed on a grave/alter.  Something still not quite right about that situation. I don't believe he is an abductor, but sommething just doesn't add up.

Of course it doesn't add up like everything else in this sordid little case

[slartibartfast]

The power of the press of the time to mould and form the opinions which are still held by some today should never be underestimated.

None more so than the Express Newspapers... who suffered financial penalties and issued a front page apology for printing lies about the Drs McCann.

Despite that and revelations by the editor at the time about the circumstances and the sources of many of the stories and headlines there are still those who have never forgotten or relinquished the acknowledged errors of the past.

The title of this thread is witness to that.


Peter Hill: 'I did too much on the Madeleine McCann story'

Roy Greenslade
Monday 21 February 2011 07.00 GMT Last modified on Sunday 10 January 2016 10.59 GMT

**Snip
Peter Hill has pulled off that most difficult of tricks in the media world.
He has managed to maintain a low profile despite being at the centre of several controversies and attracting considerable criticism during his seven years as editor of the Daily Express.
He has also achieved the rare distinction in national newspapers of choosing to retire rather than being axed. Friday evening was his last in the Express chair, and marked the end of a journalistic career stretching back 50 years.

**Snip
 ... But he is contrite about the sad episode that ended with Express Newspapers being landed with one of the most expensive legal bills in newspaper history – the coverage of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Hill's paper and its three other titles, the Daily Star, Sunday Express and Daily Star Sunday.
He says: "I did too much on the story. I accept that."

Too much wasn't the only problem though.
There were also the stories that suggested Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, might have been complicit in her disappearance, which in its apology Express Newspapers admitted were "seriously defamatory".

Asked whether he regretted libelling the McCanns, he replies: "Of course I do. And I insisted on apologising on the front of the newspaper when it became clear that it was a complete fabrication. We gave them £500,000. It doesn't redound to my credit but it did help them to continue the search."

Leaking stories

So why did it happen?
"It was a huge story, and every adult in the country had an opinion on it.
I admit it helped to sell the paper.
There were many factors involved, such as the way Maddy's parents sought publicity in an unprecedented way.

"All the way through, our principal focus was on 'what's happened to Maddy?'
The Portuguese police and British legal sources were leaking stories that implied the McCanns were guilty in some way.
We were not to know that the Portuguese police were ineffectual and, in some cases, corrupt."

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/feb/21/peter-hill-daily-express-madeleine-mccann

Hmm.