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Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2340 on: October 23, 2017, 11:34:42 PM »
http://portugalresident.com/judges-%E2%80%9Ccondone%E2%80%9D-domestic-violence-in-case-of-%E2%80%98adulterous-female%E2%80%99
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 23, 2017
Two appeal court judges are in the spotlight this week for apparently condoning domestic violence when the victim is ‘an adulterous female’.

Quoting passages from the Bible, and citing cultures where adulterous women are stoned to death, judges Neto de Moura and Maria Luísa Abrantes ruled that “the adultery of a woman is a very serious attack on the honour and dignity of (her) man”.

Over 20 pages, the duo ‘demolished’ the woman who in 2014 cheated on her husband and then ended up physically assaulted by him after being held to account, against her will, by her former lover, reports Jornal de Notícias.

A lower court had previously heard the case and handed both men suspended jail terms. The Public Ministry appealed however, hoping for custodial sentences.

These will now not be forthcoming.

Indeed, the Porto appeal court duo stressed that “in the Bible, we can read that an adulterous woman should be punished with death”.

It’s a judgement that has sparked outrage over social media - many commentators complaining that it takes the whole issue of gender equality back to the Dark Ages.

The judges’ feeling however was that the lower court had appreciated all the details “well”, particularly in the context that the husband was acting while suffering from depression.

In other words, the judgement ‘sticks’, the aggressors walk free - albeit saddled with their initial fines and suspended jail terms - and any woman committing adultery within an established relationship and coming a cropper will now be painfully aware that judges may not be totally on her side.

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The Appeal Court at its finest!!

Offline Benice

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2341 on: October 24, 2017, 10:20:46 AM »
http://portugalresident.com/judges-%E2%80%9Ccondone%E2%80%9D-domestic-violence-in-case-of-%E2%80%98adulterous-female%E2%80%99
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 23, 2017
Two appeal court judges are in the spotlight this week for apparently condoning domestic violence when the victim is ‘an adulterous female’.

Quoting passages from the Bible, and citing cultures where adulterous women are stoned to death, judges Neto de Moura and Maria Luísa Abrantes ruled that “the adultery of a woman is a very serious attack on the honour and dignity of (her) man”.

Over 20 pages, the duo ‘demolished’ the woman who in 2014 cheated on her husband and then ended up physically assaulted by him after being held to account, against her will, by her former lover, reports Jornal de Notícias.

A lower court had previously heard the case and handed both men suspended jail terms. The Public Ministry appealed however, hoping for custodial sentences.

These will now not be forthcoming.

Indeed, the Porto appeal court duo stressed that “in the Bible, we can read that an adulterous woman should be punished with death”.

It’s a judgement that has sparked outrage over social media - many commentators complaining that it takes the whole issue of gender equality back to the Dark Ages.

The judges’ feeling however was that the lower court had appreciated all the details “well”, particularly in the context that the husband was acting while suffering from depression.

In other words, the judgement ‘sticks’, the aggressors walk free - albeit saddled with their initial fines and suspended jail terms - and any woman committing adultery within an established relationship and coming a cropper will now be painfully aware that judges may not be totally on her side.

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The Appeal Court at its finest!!

Totally baffling.   But then what can you expect from a judicial system which having found that a person has been tortured by PJ officers whilst in their custody  - does not even contemplate a re-trial but instead increases the victim's prison sentence  - whilst the perpetrators walk free!

Inexplicable.

IMO


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2342 on: October 24, 2017, 02:41:22 PM »
It appears that the father of  3 year old Sherrin has changed his story.

"On Monday, Wesley Mathews and his attorney voluntarily arrived at the Richardson police station and shared a different account of  his adoptive daughter's disappearance, Perlich said.

"He provided an alternate series of events from what he had previously given us," Perlich said." 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/10/23/father-missing-3-year-old-sherin-mathews-arrested

Site now updated.

Dumped body after she choked on milk feed
« Last Edit: October 24, 2017, 04:10:51 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2343 on: October 24, 2017, 06:06:00 PM »
It appears that the father of  3 year old Sherrin has changed his story.

"On Monday, Wesley Mathews and his attorney voluntarily arrived at the Richardson police station and shared a different account of  his adoptive daughter's disappearance, Perlich said.

"He provided an alternate series of events from what he had previously given us," Perlich said." 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/10/23/father-missing-3-year-old-sherin-mathews-arrested

Site now updated.

Dumped body after she choked on milk feed

Oh Dear God.  Poor little girl.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2344 on: October 25, 2017, 09:45:39 PM »
It appears that the father of  3 year old Sherrin has changed his story.

"On Monday, Wesley Mathews and his attorney voluntarily arrived at the Richardson police station and shared a different account of  his adoptive daughter's disappearance, Perlich said.

"He provided an alternate series of events from what he had previously given us," Perlich said." 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/10/23/father-missing-3-year-old-sherin-mathews-arrested

Site now updated.

Dumped body after she choked on milk feed


You know the father who did a heinous thing claiming he was punishing a three year old by locking her out of the home,thinking people would not find this behaviour abhorrent.
The police were correct and got him to own up.

You can put the rest of my post back because it was not in any way libel.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2017, 10:05:49 PM by Miss Taken Identity »
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2345 on: October 25, 2017, 09:54:47 PM »

You know the father who did a heinous thing claiming he was punishing a three year old by locking her out of the home,thinking people would not find this behaviour abhorrent.
The police were correct and got him to own up.

People do stupid things on the spur of the moment when stressed and then come to regret them.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2346 on: October 25, 2017, 10:07:56 PM »
People do stupid things on the spur of the moment when stressed and then come to regret them.

Yeah, they also think they can be very clever and smart and out smart the police, but  the truth will out!
quite a few murderers have confessed because they know the game is up.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2347 on: October 25, 2017, 10:51:13 PM »
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2348 on: October 25, 2017, 11:47:23 PM »
In Memoriam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nftncTMcZ8U
You beat me to it

I was going to post the same song but a different version

http://youtu.be/bQQCPrwKzdo

Your version is much more lively but according to Youtube figures this was more popular


RIP Music man.  You will long be remembered.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2349 on: October 27, 2017, 02:44:37 PM »
K-9 Handlers Who Found Sherin Mathews Share Their Story

One K-9 led her handler to a field north of the Mathews home and eventually to the culvert where investigators found the small child's body.

"She started doing it from a long way off, and it wasn't an area she was supposed to be looking in, but that's how it concluded," said Seevers, of the K-9's path. "She found her way there. One of the things we have to do is we have to believe in them and she took us there."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/K-9-Handlers-Who-Found-Sherin-Mathews-Share-Their-Story-453464213.html
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2350 on: October 27, 2017, 04:18:44 PM »
K-9 Handlers Who Found Sherin Mathews Share Their Story

One K-9 led her handler to a field north of the Mathews home and eventually to the culvert where investigators found the small child's body.

"She started doing it from a long way off, and it wasn't an area she was supposed to be looking in, but that's how it concluded," said Seevers, of the K-9's path. "She found her way there. One of the things we have to do is we have to believe in them and she took us there."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/K-9-Handlers-Who-Found-Sherin-Mathews-Share-Their-Story-453464213.html

It is always a win to find a body when there is one.  If you can call it a win.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2351 on: October 27, 2017, 05:12:24 PM »
It is always a win to find a body when there is one.  If you can call it a win.

The body was found because it was hidden close to where she lived and not 20 miles away. Sadly not all bodies are found but fortunately it's not a win for the lying father.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2352 on: October 27, 2017, 07:26:20 PM »
The body was found because it was hidden close to where she lived and not 20 miles away. Sadly not all bodies are found but fortunately it's not a win for the lying father.

But no body has ever been found of Madeleine.

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2353 on: October 27, 2017, 08:11:34 PM »
Not just a body, of course, absolutely no trace of her at all
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #2354 on: October 30, 2017, 09:55:08 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5031805/Single-mother-three-year-old-son-died-avoids-jail.html

Tells a strange story about a child who dies in the bath and his mother admitting she told lies... the child 'took' some of mums pills  few years earlier...


No she didn't get jail time. She accidentally left him in the bath for 15 minutes and he had a suspected heart failure??????
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin