Wandering Off Topic

[Mr Gray]

A completely facile argument... it’s ok to drink and drive because some people stab other people.

you obviusly are not following the argument...teh mccanns were wrong to leave their children...its wrong to smoke in the presemnce of children...d and d and stabbing are also both wrong...nothing facile about anything i have posted

[slartibartfast]

you obviusly are not following the argument...teh mccanns were wrong to leave their children...its wrong to smoke in the presemnce of children...d and d and stabbing are also both wrong...nothing facile about anything i have posted

Fallacy of relative privation.

[Mr Gray]

Fallacy of relative privation.

in my mind...or my opinion...you lost the argument some time ago

[slartibartfast]

in my mind...or my opinion...you lost the argument some time ago

You are the one who appears to think that the fact that some people smoke around their children in some way reduces the opprobrium attached to those who leave their children to the tender mercies of whatever.

[Mr Gray]

You are the one who appears to think that the fact that some people smoke around their children in some way reduces the opprobrium attached to those who leave their children to the tender mercies of whatever.

I actually think both are wrong and can result in damage to  children....but I genuinely care about the welfare of all children and we as adults have a duty to take care of them...Im pretty proud of my own....Ive done a good job

[Robittybob1]

Were the patio doors locked or not? that is something i haven't found a definitive answer on it wasn't in Kate's book as I recall?

the patio door can't be unlocked from the outside.

[Mr Gray]

the patio door can't be unlocked from the outside.

nor locked

[Robittybob1]

Fallacy of relative privation.

That is a new one on me.

"Fallacy of relative privation (also known as "appeal to worse problems" or "not as bad as") – dismissing an argument or complaint due to the existence of more important problems in the world, regardless of whether those problems bear relevance to the initial argument."

[Mr Gray]

That is a new one on me.

"Fallacy of relative privation (also known as "appeal to worse problems" or "not as bad as") – dismissing an argument or complaint due to the existence of more important problems in the world, regardless of whether those problems bear relevance to the initial argument."

but Im not doing that... I am not dismissing anything   so an argument to fallacy

[John]

nor locked

But could it be locked and then closed from the outside?

[Mr Gray]

But could it be locked and then closed from the outside?

yes ..it could be locked from the inside...and then could not be opened from the outside

[John]

Were the patio doors locked or not? that is something i haven't found a definitive answer on it wasn't in Kate's book as I recall?

Seems the patio door was only locked during daytime when the family were all out.

[Alice Purjorick]

simple question...have you ever smoked with children in the room...its a form of child abuse...imo

Jeez yes; like a chimney, they didn't call me "Old Black Country Zeke" for nothing.
There we'd be, half a dozen 13 year olds (all children) passing around a Joystick or a Royalty.
Then popping off down the Dun Cow for a pint of bitter, thinking "I'll be glad when I am old enough to enjoy this"!

[Mr Gray]

Jeez yes; like a chimney, they didn't call me "Old Black Country Zeke" for nothing.
There we'd be, half a dozen 13 year olds (all children) passing around a Joystick or a Royalty.
Then popping off down the Dun Cow for a pint of bitter, thinking "I'll be glad when I am old enough to enjoy this"!

precisely...and parents left their children in chalets at butlins whilst playing bingo.....both wrong

alice...the relationship  between smoking, passive smoking and lung cancer  is well established....dont treat it as a joke

[Robittybob1]

But could it be locked and then closed from the outside?

Good question.  I don't recall anyone saying that is what they did.