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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #5850 on: June 28, 2019, 10:46:43 PM »
Chance the cadaver dog also alerted at the camp ground June 2016.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2016/07/private-investigator-issues-lengthy-report-deorr-kunz-case/
So how many times are these dogs going to alert before anyone gets round to finding something?
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Offline pathfinder73

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« Reply #5851 on: June 28, 2019, 11:22:08 PM »
They detect remnant scent where a body was but no longer is. They will probably dig at the alert spot locations. They have closed it this weekend for 3 days investigation work.



Marshburn said one of his dogs went to the water and all of a sudden dashed to a spot in the water.

"Our oldest dog, Caz, the way he alerts, he lays down.  He just lays down on the spot.  Now it can be a foot over, a foot here, or a foot in front, but he lays on the strongest scent, or at it," said Marshburn.

Marshburn said the Sheriff's office brought another dog the next day. It also hit on the same spot.


https://www.localnews8.com/news/cadaver-dogs-smell-scent-in-area-where-deorr-kunz-disappeared/1089957013
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #5852 on: June 29, 2019, 12:50:03 AM »
So one set of cadaver dogs is wrong, which set?  The 2015 ones or the 2019 ones?
The later search seems very intensive.  It went on for a week, could have just been missed the first time. Finding 1 tooth in a 10,000 acre property isn't going to happen overnight other than by good luck IMO.

"Experts say a properly-trained cadaver dog can detect a single tooth in a 10,000-acre area – something beyond the scope of coverage law enforcement can provide."  https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/cadaver-dogs-train-in-lakewood/132593466
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« Reply #5853 on: June 29, 2019, 01:15:16 AM »
They detect remnant scent where a body was but no longer is. They will probably dig at the alert spot locations. They have closed it this weekend for 3 days investigation work.



Marshburn said one of his dogs went to the water and all of a sudden dashed to a spot in the water.

"Our oldest dog, Caz, the way he alerts, he lays down.  He just lays down on the spot.  Now it can be a foot over, a foot here, or a foot in front, but he lays on the strongest scent, or at it," said Marshburn.

Marshburn said the Sheriff's office brought another dog the next day. It also hit on the same spot.


https://www.localnews8.com/news/cadaver-dogs-smell-scent-in-area-where-deorr-kunz-disappeared/1089957013

What Marshburn didn't say was whether this water was the creek or Stone Reservoir, where cadaver dogs did alert within a few days of Deorr's disappearance (quickly dismissed as unrelated cremains).

Offline Davel

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« Reply #5854 on: June 29, 2019, 06:40:08 AM »
The later search seems very intensive.  It went on for a week, could have just been missed the first time. Finding 1 tooth in a 10,000 acre property isn't going to happen overnight other than by good luck IMO.

"Experts say a properly-trained cadaver dog can detect a single tooth in a 10,000-acre area – something beyond the scope of coverage law enforcement can provide."  https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/cadaver-dogs-train-in-lakewood/132593466

You really do contradict yourself... When I quoted a newspaper article reporting what grime had said you dismissed it as guesswork . Now you quote unnamed experts making claims.... So who are these experts and what are their qualifications and what exactly did they say..
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« Reply #5855 on: June 29, 2019, 11:17:11 AM »
You really do contradict yourself... When I quoted a newspaper article reporting what grime had said you dismissed it as guesswork . Now you quote unnamed experts making claims.... So who are these experts and what are their qualifications and what exactly did they say..
It was irony.
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« Reply #5856 on: July 04, 2019, 09:13:23 PM »
The MET have faith in the dogs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7213453/Hunt-Suzy-Lamplugh-hones-trees.html


Police cadaver dogs that can smell dead bodies were used today to search a field for the remains of estate agent Suzy Lamplugh 33 years after she vanished.

Metropolitan Police officers started searching the field after receiving new evidence from a witness who recalled someone acting suspiciously there.
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« Reply #5857 on: July 04, 2019, 09:16:50 PM »
The MET have faith in the dogs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7213453/Hunt-Suzy-Lamplugh-hones-trees.html


Police cadaver dogs that can smell dead bodies were used today to search a field for the remains of estate agent Suzy Lamplugh 33 years after she vanished.

Metropolitan Police officers started searching the field after receiving new evidence from a witness who recalled someone acting suspiciously there.

Also believe that some people have good memories too by the sound of it.
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« Reply #5858 on: July 04, 2019, 09:18:30 PM »
The MET have faith in the dogs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7213453/Hunt-Suzy-Lamplugh-hones-trees.html


Police cadaver dogs that can smell dead bodies were used today to search a field for the remains of estate agent Suzy Lamplugh 33 years after she vanished.

Metropolitan Police officers started searching the field after receiving new evidence from a witness who recalled someone acting suspiciously there.


So they know for sure now if she's there or not
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Offline barrier

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« Reply #5859 on: July 04, 2019, 09:19:19 PM »
Also believe that some people have good memories too by the sound of it.

They either have good faith in the intelligence or they're being led a merry dance.
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Offline jassi

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« Reply #5860 on: July 04, 2019, 09:21:03 PM »
They either have good faith in the intelligence or they're being led a merry dance.

I suppose they would be criticised if they ignored a new lead.
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« Reply #5861 on: July 04, 2019, 09:27:03 PM »
I suppose they would be criticised if they ignored a new lead.
Why would someone sit on information like that for 33 years?   Could I recall seeing someone acting suspiciously 33 years ago?   Fascinating that some people remember minor things for so long.
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« Reply #5862 on: July 04, 2019, 09:29:55 PM »
I suppose they would be criticised if they ignored a new lead.
I don't know how anyone can rely on the bark of a bloody dog.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #5863 on: July 04, 2019, 09:34:36 PM »
I don't know how anyone can rely on the bark of a bloody dog.
The likelihood is if they don’t find remains there we’ll never know if dog barked or not.
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« Reply #5864 on: July 05, 2019, 12:30:49 PM »
The MET have faith in the dogs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7213453/Hunt-Suzy-Lamplugh-hones-trees.html


Police cadaver dogs that can smell dead bodies were used today to search a field for the remains of estate agent Suzy Lamplugh 33 years after she vanished.

Metropolitan Police officers started searching the field after receiving new evidence from a witness who recalled someone acting suspiciously there.


I wonder who identified the dogs.

The cadaver dogs used in the investigation into missing schoolgirl Madeleine McCann and murdered Newent woman Kate Prout have been spotted at the dig.

The death dogs are supporting forensics teams looking in a field just over the Gloucestershire border for the remains of Cheltenham-born estate agent who vanished in July 1986.


https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/death-dogs-help-search-cheltenham-3053873
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