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Offline Robittybob1

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8190 on: July 09, 2020, 12:42:48 PM »
Why would he be leaving the Oldfield's garden?
Maybe looking for a way to get into McCann's apartment.  There was only a low fence to jump across.
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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8191 on: July 09, 2020, 12:44:28 PM »
I'm of the opinion that it was Matthew Oldfield leaving his own garden on his way (probably) to the beach.
They had been at the beach that afternoon hadn't they.  Sailing and all that.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8192 on: July 09, 2020, 12:58:31 PM »
They had been at the beach that afternoon hadn't they.  Sailing and all that.

Yes, but the witness wasn't absolutely certain whether it was morning or afternoon when she saw the man and couldn't give a definite time.

According to Rachael the women and children didn't leave for the beach until four, half four. The men went down before that.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8193 on: July 09, 2020, 01:44:49 PM »
Furtively?  I thought MO was the tallest of the bunch...?

Russell was the tallest 6'6
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8194 on: July 09, 2020, 04:10:21 PM »
Russell was the tallest 6'6
And how tall was MO?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8195 on: July 09, 2020, 06:39:08 PM »
As a guess about 6'2

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8196 on: July 09, 2020, 07:06:14 PM »
As a guess about 6'2


Oldfield does not have light complexion. Tranmer described the man she saw as being furtive, as if he wanted to not attract attention. I think in that, lies an important detail.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8197 on: July 09, 2020, 07:08:11 PM »
As a guess about 6'2


Deffo not medium height then!
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Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8198 on: July 10, 2020, 12:50:07 AM »
I think the Winnebago indicates that he came into money from somewhere.

But does he own the Winnibago / Allegro

If so why didn't he live in it?.  It was easily big enough and would have saved him a lot of money if he didn't have a cottage as well.?

I am inclined to think that maybe he was provided with it to transport children / narcotics at the will of the Trafficking master... but I don't know !

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8199 on: July 10, 2020, 09:32:24 AM »
I think the Winnebago indicates that he came into money from somewhere.

Why is a Winnebago absent from MET and BKA websites? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8200 on: July 10, 2020, 09:47:21 AM »
Why is a Winnebago absent from MET and BKA websites?


Possibly because it wasn't bought until 2010

https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-kept-child-porn-in-rv-film/

Brueckner, 43, reportedly bought the red and white Allegro Bay RV in early 2010 — three years after moving back to his native Germany from Portugal.
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Or maybe not -   Into year 13 and still no solution.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8201 on: July 10, 2020, 09:55:13 AM »

Possibly because it wasn't bought until 2010

https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-kept-child-porn-in-rv-film/

Brueckner, 43, reportedly bought the red and white Allegro Bay RV in early 2010 — three years after moving back to his native Germany from Portugal.

Thanks.  Not sure I see any connection with MM's disappearance if he purchased in 2010?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8202 on: July 10, 2020, 10:00:21 AM »
Nope, nor do I, though it may be relevant to the Germans, who seem interested in far more than Madeleine's disappearance.
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Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8203 on: July 15, 2020, 08:53:46 AM »
Its been suggested that Portugal is a paedo paradise in some quarters,Germany it seem is not immune from it.

Caveat google translate.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article211612601/Kindesmissbrauch-Netz-der-Paedokriminellen-zieht-sich-durch-ganz-Deutschland.html
The network of pedophile criminals runs through all of Germany


A criminal scene with thousands of perpetrators: The latest abuse scandals in Germany have caused bewilderment. Increased international investigations now reveal the huge dimension of organized child abuse.
4th

EThey are snapshots of different crimes, but, in summary, they reveal the huge dimension of the problem of child abuse: one of the ten most wanted pediatricians worldwide has now been arrested in Paris. According to the Bordeaux public prosecutor, the 40-year-old Frenchman is said to have provided photos and videos of abuse images to thousands of users on the Internet. The arrest was carried out in cooperation with the EU police agency Europol.

In the past two weeks, the Rostock public prosecutor and police have executed 18 search warrants on suspicion of acquiring, owning and distributing child abuse images. The accused are between 16 and 76 years old. According to the public prosecutor, these are separate cases. The data on 385 secured data carriers and evidence covers more than 26 terabytes, storage space for millions of photos and hundreds of videos. It may be that other suspects are identified during the evaluation. The Rostock investigators already carried out a total of 47 raids on the subject of child abuse this year.

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Since autumn 2019, the Cologne police have been providing regular information, in phases weekly, about the largest crime complex of the investigative commission "Berg", which has been the nation's largest so far. So far, 60 suspects have been targeted by investigators in NRW alone. 56 reports were forwarded to investigative authorities in the remaining 15 federal states.

The intensified investigations reveal how far-reaching the networks are in child sexual abuse - most recently with a number of the “Cybercrime Central and Contact Point” at the Cologne Public Prosecutor's Office, which investigates the clues from the “Berg” crime complex and now a task force to combat child abuse has founded: Accordingly, there are now around 30,000 traces at “Berg”, although it is not clear whether the number of suspects is the same. In a seized internet chat, around 1800 participants were found who have to fear at least one charge for possessing or distributing recordings of naked and raped children - if they can all be identified using their pseudonyms.

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The Federal Government's Commissioner for Abuse, Johannes-Wilhelm Rörig, calls for more federal and state involvement in the fight against sexual abuse of children and adolescents. Rörig advocated a cross-departmental master plan of the federal states against sexual violence. "The political will to combat sexual violence against children has so far been too weak," complained Rörig to the Funke media group.

In Rörig's view , the now planned tightening of punishment, which federal states such as North Rhine-Westphalia had requested early and which, after the first hesitation, now also supports Federal Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht (SPD), is not sufficient to prevent abuse. He advocates improved information and prevention work, better investigative options and closer cooperation between youth welfare offices and family courts.

The CSU wants to go further than the Federal Minister of Justice and ensure that convictions for child abuse remain in the offender's extended certificate of good conduct for life and are no longer deleted after ten years. "If you commit the weakest in our society, you must never deal with children again professionally or on a voluntary basis," said the head of the CSU state group in the Bundestag, Alexander Dobrindt. North Rhine-Westphalia, Baden-Württemberg, Bavaria and the Saarland have jointly launched an initiative to eliminate the deletion deadlines through the Federal Council.
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Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #8204 on: July 15, 2020, 11:49:08 AM »
Its been suggested that Portugal is a paedo paradise in some quarters,Germany it seem is not immune from it.

Caveat google translate.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article211612601/Kindesmissbrauch-Netz-der-Paedokriminellen-zieht-sich-durch-ganz-Deutschland.html
The network of pedophile criminals runs through all of Germany


A criminal scene with thousands of perpetrators: The latest abuse scandals in Germany have caused bewilderment. Increased international investigations now reveal the huge dimension of organized child abuse.
4th

EThey are snapshots of different crimes, but, in summary, they reveal the huge dimension of the problem of child abuse: one of the ten most wanted pediatricians worldwide has now been arrested in Paris. According to the Bordeaux public prosecutor, the 40-year-old Frenchman is said to have provided photos and videos of abuse images to thousands of users on the Internet. The arrest was carried out in cooperation with the EU police agency Europol.

In the past two weeks, the Rostock public prosecutor and police have executed 18 search warrants on suspicion of acquiring, owning and distributing child abuse images. The accused are between 16 and 76 years old. According to the public prosecutor, these are separate cases. The data on 385 secured data carriers and evidence covers more than 26 terabytes, storage space for millions of photos and hundreds of videos. It may be that other suspects are identified during the evaluation. The Rostock investigators already carried out a total of 47 raids on the subject of child abuse this year.

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Parents should send clear signals when a child talks about abuse and be sure to seek support for themselves
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How to protect your child from sexual assault
Since autumn 2019, the Cologne police have been providing regular information, in phases weekly, about the largest crime complex of the investigative commission "Berg", which has been the nation's largest so far. So far, 60 suspects have been targeted by investigators in NRW alone. 56 reports were forwarded to investigative authorities in the remaining 15 federal states.

The intensified investigations reveal how far-reaching the networks are in child sexual abuse - most recently with a number of the “Cybercrime Central and Contact Point” at the Cologne Public Prosecutor's Office, which investigates the clues from the “Berg” crime complex and now a task force to combat child abuse has founded: Accordingly, there are now around 30,000 traces at “Berg”, although it is not clear whether the number of suspects is the same. In a seized internet chat, around 1800 participants were found who have to fear at least one charge for possessing or distributing recordings of naked and raped children - if they can all be identified using their pseudonyms.

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"You don't think that grandma wants something bad"
The Federal Government's Commissioner for Abuse, Johannes-Wilhelm Rörig, calls for more federal and state involvement in the fight against sexual abuse of children and adolescents. Rörig advocated a cross-departmental master plan of the federal states against sexual violence. "The political will to combat sexual violence against children has so far been too weak," complained Rörig to the Funke media group.

In Rörig's view , the now planned tightening of punishment, which federal states such as North Rhine-Westphalia had requested early and which, after the first hesitation, now also supports Federal Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht (SPD), is not sufficient to prevent abuse. He advocates improved information and prevention work, better investigative options and closer cooperation between youth welfare offices and family courts.

The CSU wants to go further than the Federal Minister of Justice and ensure that convictions for child abuse remain in the offender's extended certificate of good conduct for life and are no longer deleted after ten years. "If you commit the weakest in our society, you must never deal with children again professionally or on a voluntary basis," said the head of the CSU state group in the Bundestag, Alexander Dobrindt. North Rhine-Westphalia, Baden-Württemberg, Bavaria and the Saarland have jointly launched an initiative to eliminate the deletion deadlines through the Federal Council.


Paedophiles are everywhere.  Though most countries keep note of who is convicted of abuse against children,  how come the Portuguese didn't?