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Alfie

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1590 on: September 16, 2016, 03:59:57 PM »
I find this strange. Had they run so low on topics of conversation that Kate was reduced to boring the rest of the group about what her elder daughter was wearing to bed that night?  Did she also describe in detail what her other children were wearing that night?
I think you're barking up the wrong tree here - Kate obviously wasn't talking about Madeleine's pjs with the group BEFORE the alarm was raised.

Offline jassi

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« Reply #1591 on: September 16, 2016, 04:19:46 PM »
I think you're barking up the wrong tree here - Kate obviously wasn't talking about Madeleine's pjs with the group BEFORE the alarm was raised.

Could well be

So when was Kate then telling the rest of the group what Madeleine had been wearing  ?
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Alfie

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1592 on: September 16, 2016, 04:26:25 PM »
Could well be

So when was Kate then telling the rest of the group what Madeleine had been wearing  ?
After she discovered Madeleine missing presumably!

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1593 on: September 16, 2016, 04:32:15 PM »
After she discovered Madeleine missing presumably!

But if they were sitting down at a table, as G-unit says, it must have been the following day, or later, in which case of what relevance was it?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

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« Reply #1594 on: September 16, 2016, 04:40:13 PM »
But if they were sitting down at a table, as G-unit says, it must have been the following day, or later, in which case of what relevance was it?
7 of the T9 went back to 5A after Kate raised the alarm.  There was a second search of 5A.  Then some people went out searching.  A description of what Madeleine was wearing, to aid the search, seems the most likely explanation.

Is there anything odd in this respect?  Before numerous statements are combed through checking on who knew what about the pyjamas and when.
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Alfie

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1595 on: September 16, 2016, 05:25:05 PM »
But if they were sitting down at a table, as G-unit says, it must have been the following day, or later, in which case of what relevance was it?
Sitting down at a table?  What table?  Where?

Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1596 on: September 16, 2016, 05:59:44 PM »
Not sure.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2016, 06:28:42 PM by John »
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1597 on: September 16, 2016, 07:12:31 PM »
Isn't it odd that one of the police there was able to speak with Jane without a interpreter or that is how it sounded like to me, but Jane didn't understand the question, I think, for the answer didn't quite tie in with the question.
So Jane says she tells Rachel first.  Does Rachel agree with that?  Does Rachel get out of all the child minding duties?  Why is Matt doing all the running around at 9:00 and then again at 9:30?
Rachel is hardly ever mentioned.
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Alfie

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1598 on: September 16, 2016, 07:14:35 PM »
Isn't it odd that one of the police there was able to speak with Jane without a interpreter or that is how it sounded like to me, but Jane didn't understand the question, I think, for the answer didn't quite tie in with the question.
So Jane says she tells Rachel first.  Does Rachel agree with that?  Does Rachel get out of all the child minding duties?  Why is Matt doing all the running around at 9:00 and then again at 9:30?
Rachel is hardly ever mentioned.
You do realise that the Rogatory Interviews were done months later in England with British police don't you?
« Last Edit: September 21, 2016, 06:30:34 PM by John »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1599 on: September 16, 2016, 07:24:09 PM »
You do realise that the Rogatory Interviews were done months later in England with British police don't you?
About a year later, I have understood all that needed to be done again as the first statements probably hadn't been taken in the correct manner of taking them in the witness' native language, so they took these rogatory statements.
I feel we can treat the earlier "statements" as notes only.
Why did you ask me that?
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Alfie

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1600 on: September 16, 2016, 07:27:44 PM »
About a year later, I have understood all that needed to be done again as the first statements probably hadn't been taken in the correct manner of taking them in the witness' native language, so they took these rogatory statements.
I feel we can treat the earlier "statements" as notes only.
Why did you ask me that?
Because you wrote this

 isn't it odd that one of the police there was able to speak with Jane without a interpreter

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1601 on: September 16, 2016, 07:36:04 PM »
Because you wrote this

 isn't it odd that one of the police there was able to speak with Jane without a interpreter
Well how do you read this sentence "So I’d spoken to the GNR Police and then when the PJ came, they came to get me to talk to them to say, to say what, what I’d seen.  And then I can remember the same GNR person saying to me later on in the night ‘Oh have you spoken to the PJ’ and I had by that stage, so”.....And where was Kate?” "  It sounded to me like he talked directly to Jane without the use of Silvia.  Agree or disagree? Is it true one of the early GNR officers doesn't make a statement?   It could be the one not making a statement.
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Alfie

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1602 on: September 16, 2016, 07:37:24 PM »
Well how do you read this sentence "So I’d spoken to the GNR Police and then when the PJ came, they came to get me to talk to them to say, to say what, what I’d seen.  And then I can remember the same GNR person saying to me later on in the night ‘Oh have you spoken to the PJ’ and I had by that stage, so”.....And where was Kate?” "  It sounded to me like he talked directly to Jane without the use of Silvia.  Agree or disagree? Is it true one of the early GNR officers doesn't make a statement?   It could be the one not making a statement.
I get you.  Dunno then. 

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1603 on: September 16, 2016, 07:45:03 PM »
I get you.  Dunno then.
If this GNR person was able to understand English and Portuguese his statement might not have been helpful to Goncalo Amarals case against the McCanns so it was separated out.  Why else would one of them not make a statement?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1604 on: September 16, 2016, 11:09:49 PM »
7 of the T9 went back to 5A after Kate raised the alarm.  There was a second search of 5A.  Then some people went out searching.  A description of what Madeleine was wearing, to aid the search, seems the most likely explanation.

Is there anything odd in this respect?  Before numerous statements are combed through checking on who knew what about the pyjamas and when.

Rachael Matthew and Russell didn't go into 5A, they stayed at the bottom of the steps, so Kate didn't give any description of the child's pyjamas to 'everyone' at the table in the apartment. The only table where everyone but Jane was present seems to have been the Tapas table.

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