Wandering Off Topic

[Alice Purjorick]

Absolutely.   %£&)**#

One can only stand back in amazement and admire the chutzpah which remodelled an ignominious sacking into a "sideways move promotion"

As for 'conspiracy theories' ... I think what the coordinator of Madeleine's case has to say here might be considered as verging on paranoia.  If not that, perhaps one of the worst examples of unprofessional behaviour from a senior police officer ever publicly demonstrated.



Madeleine: Paulo Rebelo substitui Gonçalo Amaral... (ACTUALIZADA)

Paulo Rebelo ocupava as funções de director nacional adjunto.

O novo responsável pelo DIC de Portimão da PJ fez carreira na Direcção Central de Investigação ao Tráfico de Estupefacientes (DCITE) e esteve à frente da Directoria de Lisboa durante a investigação de pedofilia que resultou no processo Casa Pia.

Paulo Rebelo esteve também na condução do inquérito à fuga de informação relativa ao caso Freeport, de Alcochete.

Paulo Rebelo occupied the deputy national director functions.

The new responsible for Portimão PJ DIC has made a career in the Central Directorate for Investigation to Drug Trafficking (DCITE) and headed the Directorate of Lisbon during the pedophile investigation that resulted in the Casa Pia case.

Paulo Rebelo was also in the survey conduct leakage of information about the Freeport case of Alcochete.

Gonçalo Amaral foi afastado dia 02 de Outubro das funções de coordenador do DIC da PJ de Portimão depois de declarações feitas ao Diário de Notícias em que acusava a Polícia inglesa de favorecer o casal McCann nas investigações sobre o desaparecimento da sua filha Madeleine.

Goncalo Amaral was dismissed on 02 October of the DIC's coordinator of the PJ in Portimão after statements to the Daily News in which he accused the British police of favoring the McCanns in the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine.

No mesmo dia, o director nacional da PJ, Alípio Ribeiro, considerou "óbvias" as razões que o levaram a tomar a decisão de afastar Gonçalo Amaral de coordenador do Departamento de Investigação Criminal de Portimão da PJ e do caso Madeleine McCann.

On the same day, the national director of the PJ, Alipio Ribeiro, considered "obvious" reasons that led him to take the decision to remove Gonçalo Amaral coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of Portimão PJ and Madeleine McCann case.


"Fiz cessar a comissão de serviço de Gonçalo Amaral em Portimão. As razões pelas quais dei esse despacho parecem-me óbvias", disse aos jornalistas Alípio Ribeiro, numa aparente referência às polémicas declarações de Gonçalo Amaral ao Diário de Notícias desse dia.

"I cease Gonçalo Amaral service commission in Portimão. The reasons I gave that order seems to me obvious," Alipio Ribeiro told reporters in an apparent reference to controversial remarks by Gonçalo Amaral to the Daily News that day.

O coordenador da investigação do caso da menina inglesa desaparecida no Algarve acusou, em declarações publicadas pelo Diário de Notícias, a Polícia inglesa de investigar "unicamente" pistas e informações "trabalhadas" pelos pais de Madeleine McCann.

The coordinator of the investigation of the missing British girl case in the Algarve accused in statements published by the Daily News, the English police to investigate "only" clues and information "worked" by the parents of Madeleine McCann.

"A Polícia britânica tem estado unicamente a trabalhar sobre aquilo que o casal McCann pretende e lhe convém", disse Gonçalo Amaral, quando comentava a notícia publicada no dia 01 de Outubro em vários jornais ingleses dando conta de um e-mail anónimo enviado para o site oficial do príncipe Carlos que acusa uma ex-empregada do Ocean Club, empreendimento da Praia da Luz de onde desapareceu a criança de quatro anos, de ter raptado a menina por vingança.

Gonçalo Amaral disse ao DN que tal informação não "tem qualquer credibilidade para a Polícia portuguesa", estando "completamente posta de parte".

Acrescentou que os seus colegas ingleses "têm vindo a investigar dicas e informações criadas e trabalhadas pelos McCann, esquecendo-se que o casal é suspeito da morte da sua filha Madeleine".

Para o até agora responsável pelo Departamento de Investigação Criminal de Portimão da PJ, a história do rapto por vingança não passa de "mais um facto trabalhado pelos McCann".

O Ocean Club "está situado na Praia da Luz e não em Londres, o que significa que tudo o que diga respeito ao aldeamento e respectivos funcionários já foi ou está a ser investigado pela Polícia Judiciária", adiantou.

Garantiu que não será um "e-mail, ainda por cima anónimo, que é fácil saber de onde partiu, que vai distrair a linha de investigação" da PJ.

"The British police have been only working on what the McCanns want and it suits him," said Goncalo Amaral, when commenting the news published on October 01 in several English newspapers realizing an anonymous e-mail sent to the official website of prince Charles who accuses an ex-employee of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz where the child disappeared four years, to have kidnapped the girl for revenge.

Gonçalo Amaral told DN that such information does not "have any credibility for the Portuguese police", being "completely ruled out."

He added that their English colleagues "have been investigating tips and information created and worked by the McCanns, forgetting that the couple is suspected of the death of their daughter Madeleine."

For until now responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department of Portimão PJ, the story of the kidnapping for vengeance is merely "another fact worked for McCann."

The Ocean Club "is located in Praia da Luz and not in London, which means that everything that relates to the village and its employees have been or are being investigated by the Judicial Police," he said.

He assured it will not be an "e-mail, on top of Anonymous, which is easy to know from where he started, which will distract the line of investigation" of the PJ.

Madeleine McCann desapareceu de um apartamento da Praia da Luz, no Algarve, onde passava férias com os pais e os irmãos a 03 de Maio.

Depois de a PJ ter investigado a tese de rapto, os pais da menina, Kate e Gerry McCann, foram constituídos arguidos a 07 de Setembro, tendo abandonado o país dois dias depois.

Kate e Gerry McCann são, segundo os seus porta-vozes, suspeitos de homicídio involuntário e de ocultação de cadáver.

No entanto, os McCann não deixam de clamar a sua inocência e apelam à continuação das buscas para tentar encontrar a sua filha, hoje com quatro anos.

Madeleine McCann disappeared from an apartment in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, where on vacation with his parents and siblings to 03 May.

After the PJ have investigated the abduction theory, the girl's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, were made defendants to September 07, having left the country two days later.

Kate and Gerry McCann are, according to their spokesmen, manslaughter suspects and concealment of a corpse.

However, the McCanns do not cease to cry out his innocence and call for continuing the search to try to find his daughter, now four years.

ARA/FC

Lusa/Fim
http://noticias.sapo.pt/lusa/artigo/Zz88UgQzaoDeFyvXmhfeew.html

I was thinking more in terms of the real reason Sr Amaral was given an OBE.
I realise of course that has no legs in it for a lot of folk hereabouts, it being much more fun to talk about what the readers wives thought about it and whether or not he remodeled a chutzpah or any other kind of big cat for that matter.
I

[Brietta]

I was thinking more in terms of the real reason Sr Amaral was given an OBE.
I realise of course that has no legs in it for a lot of folk hereabouts, it being much more fun to talk about what the readers wives thought about it and whether or not he remodeled a chutzpah or any other kind of big cat for that matter.
I

I see you have got the gist of my post. No to sideways promotion. Yes to ignominious sacking. The English version confirming that is googlespeak, couched in much the same vein as in your reply ... but the original Portuguese puts it over very well.

[misty]

I see you have got the gist of my post. No to sideways promotion. Yes to ignominious sacking. The English version confirming that is googlespeak, couched in much the same vein as in your reply ... but the original Portuguese puts it over very well.

Would you translate Alice's last post, please, because I haven't the foggiest what (s)he's saying?

[Alice Purjorick]

Sr Amaral was given a shove sideways by his own bosses because he was a liability to the McCann case due to his forthcoming court appearances.
Naff all to do with insulting British Police Forces or Gordon Brown. I understand that idea will not sit well with conspiracy theorists on both sides of the equation but you really do need to get a grip on reality.
Definitions:
O.B.E = Order of The Big Elbow = the sack
D.C.M = Don't Come Monday = the sack
Sideways Promotion = being kept on at the same level or even a little above in a position where you can sit it out til pension time without causing too much damage to the organisation i.e it is the cheapest way for the organisation to solve the problem.  cf Katrina Percy*.
The above are common enough parlance in most professions.
Remodeled Chutzpah = I haven't a clue, ask Brietta she said it in her post. I presumed a Chutzpah is a big cat a bit like a Cheetah or Cougar or in other words I was taking the piss.
Clearer now?

* if you haven't heard of her, get out more.

[misty]

Sr Amaral was given a shove sideways by his own bosses because he was a liability to the McCann case due to his forthcoming court appearances.
Naff all to do with insulting British Police Forces or Gordon Brown. I understand that idea will not sit well with conspiracy theorists on both sides of the equation but you really do need to get a grip on reality.
Definitions:
O.B.E = Order of The Big Elbow = the sack
D.C.M = Don't Come Monday = the sack
Sideways Promotion = being kept on at the same level or even a little above in a position where you can sit it out til pension time without causing too much damage to the organisation i.e it is the cheapest way for the organisation to solve the problem.  cf Katrina Percy*.
The above are common enough parlance in most professions.
Remodeled Chutzpah = I haven't a clue, ask Brietta she said it in her post. I presumed a Chutzpah is a big cat a bit like a Cheetah or Cougar or in other words I was taking the piss.
Clearer now?

* if you haven't heard of her, get out more.

A bit clearer, ta.
*I can see why a new position was created for a sideways promotion.
How do you explain Tavares de Almeida also being removed from the investigating team?

[Alice Purjorick]

A bit clearer, ta.
*I can see why a new position was created for a sideways promotion.
How do you explain Tavares de Almeida also being removed from the investigating team?

I would be guessing why he was moved but when I moved people it was for one of three reasons:
1.They were as helpful as toothache to "the project" in one way or another and I wanted shut of them (extremely rarely).
2. I wanted them somewhere else because they had the skill sets I needed that somewhere else (quite commonplace).
3.The big white arrow came out of the ceiling with the usual "Thou Shalt" command attached to it! "do it immediately, do not pass go, do not collect two hundred quid, just do it" (not that often but I usually sulked if it put me out too much and I was the arbiter of "put me out too much"  ).

[Carana]

I would be guessing why he was moved but when I moved people it was for one of three reasons:
1.They were as helpful as toothache to "the project" in one way or another and I wanted shut of them (extremely rarely).
2. I wanted them somewhere else because they had the skill sets I needed that somewhere else (quite commonplace).
3.The big white arrow came out of the ceiling with the usual "Thou Shalt" command attached to it! "do it immediately, do not pass go, do not collect two hundred quid, just do it" (not that often but I usually sulked if it put me out too much and I was the arbiter of "put me out too much"  ).

I didn't quite understand no. 3, Alice.

[Robittybob1]

I didn't quite understand no. 3, Alice.

The bosses above. the "gods" on the upper floors.

[G-Unit]

A bit clearer, ta.
*I can see why a new position was created for a sideways promotion.
How do you explain Tavares de Almeida also being removed from the investigating team?

According to the Mirror he wasn't removed he asked for leave of absence.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cop-asks-to-leave-511093

[Alfie]

According to the Mirror he wasn't removed he asked for leave of absence.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cop-asks-to-leave-511093

  Sadly your article quotes an unnamed source and there cannot be either accetped or believed, sorry 

[misty]

According to the Mirror he wasn't removed he asked for leave of absence.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-cop-asks-to-leave-511093

From the libel trial

http://truthformadeleine.com/2010/01/tavares-de-almeida-when-we-asked-uk-for-info-on-mccanns-we-got-a-single-side-of-a4/

snipped
12:48: Tavares de Almeida, chief inspector of police at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance, has taken the stand to give evidence.
12:48: He was involved in the case from the beginning, but taken off it in September 2007.
12:51: Mr de Almeida tells the court that he is still working as member of the Portuguese police.
12:52: He tells the court that British police took an active part in the investigation.
12:53: He said the Portuguese detectives found the co-operation given by their British counterparts useful.

[Carana]

From the libel trial

http://truthformadeleine.com/2010/01/tavares-de-almeida-when-we-asked-uk-for-info-on-mccanns-we-got-a-single-side-of-a4/

snipped
12:48: Tavares de Almeida, chief inspector of police at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance, has taken the stand to give evidence.
12:48: He was involved in the case from the beginning, but taken off it in September 2007.
12:51: Mr de Almeida tells the court that he is still working as member of the Portuguese police.
12:52: He tells the court that British police took an active part in the investigation.
12:53: He said the Portuguese detectives found the co-operation given by their British counterparts useful.

Is "he" referring to TdeA or to GA? (12:48)

If it's TdeA, his "sabbatical" couldn't have been anything to do with the Virgolino Borges torture investigation by any chance?

Hard to tell....


The sentence was reported in 2013, which doesn't seem to mean much in terms of the PT judicial lag at the time.
http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/pena-suspensa-para-dupla-da-pj-condenada-por-tortura?

[misty]

Is "he" referring to TdeA or to GA? (12:48)

If it's TdeA, his "sabbatical" couldn't have been anything to do with the Virgolino Borges torture investigation by any chance?

Hard to tell....


The sentence was reported in 2013, which doesn't seem to mean much in terms of the PT judicial lag at the time.
http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/pena-suspensa-para-dupla-da-pj-condenada-por-tortura?

It was a commentary on TdA being cross-examined by the McCann legal team. "He" is TdA.

[Alice Purjorick]

The bosses above. the "gods" on the upper floors.

I am glad someone is awake...

[Alice Purjorick]

I didn't quite understand no. 3, Alice.

No need for you or Alfie to worry; it will not affect your PPRs....................this time...........